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09/26/2009 05:07:52 PM · #26 |
Those statistics also depend on population. Of course places like Wyoming is not going to have as many crimes than Florida or new york. We need something based on population.
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09/26/2009 05:10:38 PM · #27 |
| At least one site I looked at was per capita and ranked Florida 8th. Of course I didn't keep track of any of 'em, so I'll have to look again. |
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09/30/2009 11:36:20 PM · #28 |
Here in Colorado it's more often referred to as the "Make my day law," referencing the quote from Clint Eastwood. Interestingly, one of my friends actually shot a burglar with a shotgun, and was not charged with anything.
If I remember correctly, Colorado was one of the first places to adopt such a policy. |
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10/01/2009 03:41:34 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Here in Pennsylvania, if you shoot 'em on your property, drag 'em INSIDE the house! |
I hope this was an attempt at humor. If not, it is one of the worst examples of advice I have ever read. It promotes tampering with evidence, which with todays forensics is easily proven. Not a good position for one who is describing why they used deadly force.
The op's original question is very complicated and a very long answer would be required. From what I have read in some of these posts (with a couple notable exceptions), the responders don't know what they are talking about.
If anyone truly wishes to understand what the laws are in your particular state, then do some legwork at the county courthouse law library. Your local prosecutors office would be another possible source of at least their understanding of the law (not necessarily the correct interpretation - but at least their understanding of it). The State Attorney Generals office is another more accurate source as is the State Police.
For those looking for a general overview of this topic, then I highly recommend Massad Ayoob's book "In the Gravest Extreme". Even attorneys gleen a few tibbits from it.
Self defense incorporates prevention, awareness, action and dealing with the aftermath of a violent encounter. It is not a simple answer. Shooting and killing a 13 year old home invader, will have many consequences; in the media, the courts, and in your families life. Dragging them inside will not help matters at all.
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10/01/2009 03:43:57 PM · #30 |
| Did you seriously think he wasn't joking? Honestly? |
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10/01/2009 03:56:13 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by AJSullivan:
Did you seriously think he wasn't joking? Honestly? |
Not with capital letter emphasis and an exclamation mark. However, I do want to give the benefit of the doubt, something I am often not afforded here. |
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10/04/2009 12:59:22 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by CEJ:
If the intruder threatens you with bodily harm through actions and you defend yourself, excessive is usually not a consideration unless you mutilate or go bat shit on them as opposed to just shooting them in the leg or face or something. However, if you come home and the burglar is sitting on your couch eating ice cream or asleep in your bed, shooting him would probably be considered excessive force. (and all three of those instances were recently in the news) |
Good point, but what if that guy eating ice-cream had a gun? It doesn't make sense that i'd have to assess the intruders threat level at the expense of my family's safety. On the other hand a good friend of mine, who was lets just say slightly intoxicated at the time, happened to walk into the wrong house, took off his shoes, sat on the couch for a while before he realized he was in the wrong house. The owner came storming down the stairs and yelling at him. My friend ran, he was freaked out, being intoxicated didn't help his decision making process, either. Would it have been justified for the owner to shoot him down and ask questions later? Definitely not.
The advocate of the devil strikes again! |
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10/04/2009 01:15:32 PM · #33 |
I think you're always justified in shooting an intruder if he's trying to steal your camera gear. ;-)
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10/05/2009 05:44:40 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by Mick:
I think you're always justified in shooting an intruder if he's trying to steal your camera gear. ;-) |
If he was holding your camera gear you would have nothing to shoot with. |
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10/13/2009 05:18:22 PM · #35 |
| Personally, I prefer this product... |
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