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02/11/2010 04:25:33 AM · #826 |
Originally posted by Jac:
This just gets better the more I view it. |
Thanks for the compliment and the fav. Jac! |
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02/11/2010 05:13:10 AM · #827 |
Some people will know that recently, for each Free Study Challenge, I have tried to go through the images and take a longer look and try to make some longer comments on images that (to me) seem to be taken with a style that isn't always well received (score wise) at DPC. This was initially done on the back of some forum postings about a paucity of comments on the 'less conventional' entries. I got a little carried away with this and indulged myself with a 'Most Underrated' (Mu) award - then there was the  Zeuszen Duchesne PE debate and someone made the comment 'There is no such thing as underrated - just rated'. That made a lot of sense to me. So, no more Mu award from me but I'll be keeping up the long looks and comments on those entries that made me stop and ponder on the 'whats', the 'whys' and the 'wherefores' of the choices the photographer has made with their image.
I'll also continue to share, in line with the purpose of this thread, those images I particularly enjoyed.
In keeping with the thoughts above, the images that I gave a longer look to and got a 10 from me were:
  
and the 9s from those that prompted a longer look:
 
I'd also like to highlight the other 10 I gave out, even though it wasn't in my longer look trawl:
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02/11/2010 08:47:02 AM · #828 |
Originally posted by paulbtlw:
Some people will know that recently, for each Free Study Challenge, I have tried to go through the images and take a longer look and try to make some longer comments on images that (to me) seem to be taken with a style that isn't always well received (score wise) at DPC. This was initially done on the back of some forum postings about a paucity of comments on the 'less conventional' entries. I got a little carried away with this and indulged myself with a 'Most Underrated' (Mu) award - then there was the Zeuszen Duchesne PE debate and someone made the comment 'There is no such thing as underrated - just rated'. That made a lot of sense to me. So, no more Mu award from me but I'll be keeping up the long looks and comments on those entries that made me stop and ponder on the 'whats', the 'whys' and the 'wherefores' of the choices the photographer has made with their image.
I'll also continue to share, in line with the purpose of this thread, those images I particularly enjoyed.
In keeping with the thoughts above, the images that I gave a longer look to and got a 10 from me were:
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Wrong wrong wrong -- that is so wrong.
Your "most underrated awards" were a great teaching tool. I'm so tired of "ratings aren't wrong" and "voter is always right". If this were an area where everyone had expertise in all areas and had no desire to learn and explore, that might be a valid point. However, this is a site with many users who have never experimented with different types of photography, who haven't had the opportunity to look at other's photos, who have never even thought of or heard about camera motion, and so are starting from scratch in these areas. Your well thought out, in depth look at the more unconventional photos, and your opinion of what should have scored higher is a wonderful opportunity for those photographers to explore some photos a little more in depth than they had previously. Wasn't that your whole purpose?
You have turned a teaching moment into: here's some photos I liked. What an incredible shame and what a loss. You are entitled to your opinion. You think these photos were worthy of a higher rating and you're trying to explain to people why this is so. Isn't this what this site is about? Why are you letting other people convince you that you're not allowed to think a picture is under valued?
I joined this site already with a lot of photography experience in a very, very narrow area of expertise. I'd never done abstracts, never done camera movement, didn't care for either. That's why I joined team suck, not because I did the more unconventional photography, but because I wanted to experiment and learn. Your awards are ones that I take time to study and to see what I'm missing. I still make up my own mind, but I take the time to give a second look and learn from what you are seeing.
I think it's ridiculous to lessen something that people are using and learning from. Just because I give a bluebird, doesn't mean that I think it should have scored higher. Some yes, some no. They are something that I enjoy and have caught my eye for some reason or another. You are purposely looking for images that are worthy and trying to teach people what is worthy about them. Whether your opinions are valid, people may question, that's their right. But I'm incredibly disappointed that you are backing off on something that was extremely useful. We need more of this type of thing. Not less.
Message edited by author 2010-02-11 09:04:24.
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02/11/2010 09:00:44 AM · #829 |
Hear, Hear Vawendy! I agree with everthing you have just said and paulbtlw please keep on with your most underated award.
thank you both. |
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02/11/2010 09:07:15 AM · #830 |
I'm really happy that my pictures & are so well appreciated only AFTER the challenge.
I'll get probably very famous after my death.... :-)
Thank you again  paulbtlw for the 10!! |
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02/11/2010 09:11:08 AM · #831 |
Thanks for your views Wendy and Sandy. I'm a bit nervous now - this thread is about excellent images; it certainly wasn't my intention to get it hijacked into this debate.
I'm happy to discuss via PMs but I hope we can keep this thread about the excellent images people like to showcase.
(Thanks for your support though).
Best wishes
Paul |
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02/11/2010 09:13:58 AM · #832 |
And of course the received from  vawendy is a huge honour.
Message edited by author 2010-02-11 09:17:42. |
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02/11/2010 10:00:29 AM · #833 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
bluebirds to:
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THANKS, WENDY!!
Message edited by author 2010-02-11 10:00:45. |
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02/11/2010 06:46:11 PM · #834 |
Originally posted by paulbtlw:
...and someone made the comment 'There is no such thing as underrated - just rated'. That made a lot of sense to me. |
Really? It makes no sense to me. Not out of context anyway. A photo is underrated if the person describing it as such thinks it scored much lower than it should have. If that person is you, it's an opinion you're entitled to. You're underrated might be my overrated. It's all very subjective and very personal, and no one's right or wrong. That's the whole point of these peer recognition awards. Did you really endeavor to speak on behalf of the entire DPC community when you crowned a photo as most underrated? I say you keep handing out your Mu awards.
And certainly keep up the great work commeting on free study entries. You might be the only person around here leaving feedback that is both candid and balanced.
Good evening.
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02/11/2010 11:34:12 PM · #835 |
This thread be getting waayyyyyy too long.
Please check out my brand new thread...
//www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=971036
SC, please lock this one when you get a chance. |
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