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07/10/2009 05:10:50 AM · #1 |
In my Opinion
Best
DPC
Digital Grin
Julie's house... wait that's not it! I guess I forgot what is was.
Worst
Nikonians
Model Mayham
DPR my cat loves this laser pen
What, wait
I mean
wait what
Discuss!
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07/10/2009 05:19:58 AM · #2 |
not the worst, but a bad place:
dpreview.com
the forums there is all about hardware, minus application |
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07/10/2009 05:39:06 AM · #3 |
| You forgot //www.kenrockwell.com/ - Only this morning I was wondering to myself, is he a genius or a fool? |
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07/10/2009 06:46:29 AM · #4 |
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07/10/2009 06:52:05 AM · #5 |
Luminous Landscape is good.
(I loved it when a friend of mine, not DPC related, said, "well, Ken Rockwell says....")
Message edited by author 2009-07-10 06:53:38. |
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07/10/2009 07:11:05 AM · #6 |
TWIP rocks. (both the podcast and the website)
//www.twiplog.com/ |
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07/10/2009 07:40:46 AM · #7 |
| Can't believe nobody has pointed out Strobist for the awesomeness that it is in this thread yet. |
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07/10/2009 09:59:00 AM · #8 |
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07/10/2009 10:48:19 AM · #9 |
| I always got excellent information from Nikonians. They are very technically oriented and that was what I needed when I got into the digital side of the hobby. The only downside now is they charge for access and I no longer can afford to pay for web content. In a few weeks I'll be forced to drop my membership here for the same reason. But at least I'll be able to continue to participate here at some level, until I have to sell my last camera and lens. |
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07/10/2009 11:56:08 AM · #10 |
| Ron Bigelow These articles are formatted simply and read easily on a smartphone. |
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07/10/2009 01:07:24 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by JH:
You forgot //www.kenrockwell.com/ - Only this morning I was wondering to myself, is he a genius or a fool? |
you rabble rouser... ;) |
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07/10/2009 03:42:53 PM · #12 |
| www.photojojo.com Click on the "newsletter" part--lots of fun, offbeat photo ideas. Like printing w/ an inkjet on shrinky dinks paper and making jewelry out of your photographs. |
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07/10/2009 04:05:44 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by ben4345:
In my Opinion
Best
DPC
Digital Grin
Julie's house... wait that's not it! I guess I forgot what is was.
Worst
Nikonians
Model Mayham
DPR my cat loves this laser pen
What, wait
I mean
wait what
Discuss! |
Model Mayhem is not really a photography advice site, more a professional meeting place (and for some, a place to purely and simply express their exhibitionism)
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07/13/2009 08:25:34 PM · #14 |
dp review!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As Keith says "The Worstest"
Message edited by author 2009-07-13 20:26:19.
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07/17/2009 06:20:07 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by JH:
You forgot //www.kenrockwell.com/ - Only this morning I was wondering to myself, is he a genius or a fool? |
Newly registered today, and I actually found this site, from a search on Ken and saw your Ken Rockwell Genius or Fool Forum, and just read it in it's entirety, and ACTUALLY JOINED in order to place a post, only to find it closed......then I decided to check out the site, and lo and behold, found the above.....so I got to post after all! :-)
I think Ken Rosckwell's site is excellent. He provides his own personal opinions, for all to read. As opinions, we must make sure they work for us (of course), but I, myself, like to hear other people's opinions! His site has been very beneficial for me, in my decision making process, with regards to purchasing camera equipment. As an example, based on Ken Rockwell's opinions, I have chosen to put my money into lenses, versus upgrading to the newest bodies. I shoot Nikon, not because Ken Rockwell said to, but because I have lots of older Nikon lenses from back when I first started purchasing camera equipment, in 1970, so I wanted to still be able to use those lenses and bodies.....not sure if that was a wise choice, but it worked for me, as a hobbyist.
As for is he a Genius or a Fool, I think Ken Rockwell is a Genius! He has found a fun way to make a nice living.....without really having to try and sell anything........judging from his website ranking alone, he is certainky quite popular. For fun, I compared his website valuation (www.kenrockwell.com) with this website (dpchallenge.com)......the results are found below. Not bad!!
www.kenrockwell.com results: //www.webtrafficagents.com/WebSiteValue/www.kenrockwell.com
www.dpchallenge.com results: //www.webtrafficagents.com/WebSiteValue/www.dpchallenge.com
I personally like how he focuses less on technical specs, and more on usability.....for me, he makes things a bit easier to understand. Like everything else on the internet, I am sure he is somewhat biased towards what he thinks is best. I have met him, and while he is certainly eccentric at times, and absolutely highly opiniated, and perhaps not too terribly kind and gentle in his presentation, I know professional photographers who know him, such as Karl Grobl, who have told me that Ken's opinions are his own, and that he has not been bought by Nikon or Canon, or any other manufacturer, for that matter, and that I like!
So funny to see the really strong negative opinions, about someone, from those who never even met the man, all because his opinions and his method of presentation, don't "fit well" with them. And I especially like those who want to "protect" the innocent from reading Ken Rockwell's reviews, and being steered in the wrong direction. Really? So are we to become the Internet Police? Who specifically decides what is "acceptable opinion" and what is not? Most of us check out lots of sites, magazines, books, and friends, when learning about a potential new purchase. It is up to each of us to make sure we are well educated. And, if enough of us rely, say, on Ken Rockwell, and find his advice to be terrible, then his website will find itself visited less, and ultimately will fade into obscurity...........clearly, from the links above, that isn't happening now, anyways.
Well, my opinion, for what it's worth. And now I will check out the rest of your site. Thanks for allowing me to join!
(The new guy!) |
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07/17/2009 07:01:46 PM · #16 |
Do we report this as SPAM??????? ^
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07/17/2009 07:03:26 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by bcoolbro:
His site has been very beneficial for me, in my decision making process, with regards to purchasing camera equipment. As an example, based on Ken Rockwell's opinions, I have chosen to put my money into lenses, versus upgrading to the newest bodies. I shoot Nikon, not because Ken Rockwell said to, but because I have lots of older Nikon lenses from back when I first started purchasing camera equipment, in 1970, so I wanted to still be able to use those lenses and bodies.....not sure if that was a wise choice, but it worked for me, as a hobbyist. |
Okay.....so what equipment do you have, why, and how do you like it, and why?
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07/17/2009 08:13:51 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by bcoolbro:
I think Ken Rosckwell's site is excellent.
(The new guy!) |
Holy Crap... Ken Rockwell just joined DPC.
er... or is that Che Guevara.
Message edited by author 2009-07-17 20:14:07. |
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07/17/2009 08:33:23 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by bcoolbro:
His site has been very beneficial for me, in my decision making process, with regards to purchasing camera equipment. As an example, based on Ken Rockwell's opinions, I have chosen to put my money into lenses, versus upgrading to the newest bodies. I shoot Nikon, not because Ken Rockwell said to, but because I have lots of older Nikon lenses from back when I first started purchasing camera equipment, in 1970, so I wanted to still be able to use those lenses and bodies.....not sure if that was a wise choice, but it worked for me, as a hobbyist. |
Okay.....so what equipment do you have, why, and how do you like it, and why? |
Here goes.....all Nikon, by the way....
Body-wise, I have an F4S (and the MF-23 Multi Function Back), F100 and D70 (I want a D700, but I don't really need it - heck, I don't really need any of this stuff, right!).
Lens-wise, I have a 12-24 DX, 17-35 AFS F2.8, 28-70 AFS F2.8, 80-200 AFS F2.8, 105 F2.8D Micro/Macro, 200 F4D Micro/Macro, and the 18-200 VR.
Also have the SB-800 Flash, plus a Calumet Travel Lite Kit 1465 (I believe) (3 x 750), plus a bunch more odds and ends.
Most of what I bought I bought before I even found Ken Rockwell's website. I unfortunately have a habit of going for whatever is supposedly the best/most expensive, when I start buying stuff (not a good thing!), and in this case, I started buying camera equipment for a friend of mine, overseas, and got the brilliant idea that whatever I bought for her, I would buy one for me, too! She is a "professional", so faster, professional lenses made sense for me to get for her.....I am merely a hobbyist, so getting the same quality for me was probably dumb.
Ken's website was responsible for my decision to buy the 18-200, as I liked his take on being able to do pretty much everything with this lens (ie., I liked that it would allow me to travel "lighter" and still be able to shoot most of what I wanted to shoot, which for me, ends up being mostly photojournalism related - I am in other countries alot have shot coups, demonstrations, and the like.....and this one lens, on the D70, along with the SB-800, ended up being the perfect combination for me.)
I also liked (and wished I had read it earlier) his whole take on big camera bags and backpacks (of which I own one of each, and now never use). I used to be one of those guys he talks about who would take all my gear with me, everywhere.....loaded for bear! Very cumbersome and ineffective. Of course, I read that article of his a bit too late....and I am sure I am one of those "idiots" he refers to, in that regard (and probably many others!)
Like Karl Grobl, I travel often to third world countries. Initially, I began traveling there for work (I do Forensic Medical evaluations in cases of large scale accidents, such as airplane crashes, and with regards to other major pieces of litigation, such as pesticide exposures, chemical exposures, and such - I actually purchased the macro lenses so as to document dermatologic and testicular abnormalities in a case of pesticide/nematocide exposure in Africa), and then kinda liked it (Third World Countries), so I began to travel more, and take pictures......especially when I can document some interesting event, like the Tsunami, El Nino, a Coup, a Demonstration/General Strike, or simply activities of daily living, in a jungle community, and the like. I found Ken's and Karl's opinions about traveling "light" helpful, and in particular, I liked Karl's sharing through words and photographs, exactly how he carries his gear, what he carries, and what and where he buys his "carry" gear......and I found Karl, through a link on Ken Rockwell's site, although I met both of them in our local Photo Club initially.
Back to what I bought and why and why or what I like about it, I bought the F4s because it was so durable and bullet-proof, for a back-up in South America. I bought the F100 because I didn't need an F5 (at least that was a good decision I made). I bought the D70 because it was affordable and seemed to have more than the functionality I would ever need (and for the Africa Pesticide Exposure Case, digital made so much more sense than film, as I would be potentially shoot thousands of images), and so far, so good - I still have found no real requirement to upgrade bodies....the D70 is still "better than I am", for sure. I purchased the D70 based on Ken's website, as well as taking into consideration other peoples opinions, my needs, and how I liked the camera, when I played with it at the camera store, and the aforementioned Africa project.
I bought the best lenses I could afford, based on what I felt I needed (I photographed whales for a while for the natural history museum, for free, and really wanted a 300mm F2.8 or a 200-400mm, but was sensible enough NOT to make the purchase, just so I could provide better FREE photos to the museum). While I enjoy using those lenses, I do find myself using the 18-200 most of the time, and had I read Ken's opinions first, I might not have bought so many expensive lenses, as I did.......or maybe I still would have.....hard to say for sure. I just appreciate his opinions, as well as others I have come across over the years........different opinions make me think, and sometimes help me to make different, potentially better decisions.
In a nutshell, what I like about Ken Rockwell's wesite is this - I like his opinions (which interestingly enough is what so many people seem to dislike), as much as I like his reviews, if that makes any sense.
Oh, and the original post I made was not spam, nor were the links to that valuation site spam.....just interesting, that's all.
I hope this answers your questions, and apologise for the long reply. |
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07/17/2009 08:37:13 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by VitaminB:
Originally posted by bcoolbro:
I think Ken Rosckwell's site is excellent.
(The new guy!) |
Holy Crap... Ken Rockwell just joined DPC.
er... or is that Che Guevara. |
Well, it's really Alex, but I like the "Che" touch, given my time living in South America! Being a bit of a rabble rouser, I got nicknamed "Che". I thought about McGiver, as being good at fixing things (I once fixed a broken door with a pencil and a pen knife), they also called me McGiver......
:-) |
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07/17/2009 08:49:48 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by spiritualspatula:
Can't believe nobody has pointed out Strobist for the awesomeness that it is in this thread yet. |
I second this, my favorite. and also his buddy Pixsylated
Message edited by author 2009-07-17 21:01:02. |
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07/17/2009 09:02:08 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by bcoolbro:
Here goes.....all Nikon, by the way.... |
I am *SO* surprised!!! LOL!!!
Originally posted by bcoolbro:
Back to what I bought and why and why or what I like about it, I bought the F4s because it was so durable and bullet-proof, for a back-up in South America. I bought the F100 because I didn't need an F5 (at least that was a good decision I made). I bought the D70 because it was affordable and seemed to have more than the functionality I would ever need (and for the Africa Pesticide Exposure Case, digital made so much more sense than film, as I would be potentially shoot thousands of images), and so far, so good - I still have found no real requirement to upgrade bodies....the D70 is still "better than I am", for sure. I purchased the D70 based on Ken's website, as well as taking into consideration other peoples opinions, my needs, and how I liked the camera, when I played with it at the camera store, and the aforementioned Africa project.
I bought the best lenses I could afford, based on what I felt I needed (I photographed whales for a while for the natural history museum, for free, and really wanted a 300mm F2.8 or a 200-400mm, but was sensible enough NOT to make the purchase, just so I could provide better FREE photos to the museum). While I enjoy using those lenses, I do find myself using the 18-200 most of the time, and had I read Ken's opinions first, I might not have bought so many expensive lenses, as I did.......or maybe I still would have.....hard to say for sure. I just appreciate his opinions, as well as others I have come across over the years........different opinions make me think, and sometimes help me to make different, potentially better decisions.
In a nutshell, what I like about Ken Rockwell's wesite is this - I like his opinions (which interestingly enough is what so many people seem to dislike), as much as I like his reviews, if that makes any sense. |
So do I....I got my 18-200 based a lot on his impressions, despite the limitations he mentioned. I find them quite liveable, and it's the only lens I use.
I love his impressions & opinions on both the D70s, which was my first digital effort, and on the D200 which I just recently acquired.
Originally posted by bcoolbro:
Oh, and the original post I made was not spam, nor were the links to that valuation site spam.....just interesting, that's all.
I hope this answers your questions, and apologise for the long reply. |
Hey, you don't have to apologise around here for being thorough......it's generally appreciated.
Now go enter a challenge or two and really have some fun!
Welcome to the asylum! LOL!!!
Back to the original topic......I actually utilize Ken Rockwell's site regularly for his subjective and thorough opinions on Nikon equipment.
I like him.
Message edited by author 2009-07-17 21:04:55.
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07/19/2009 01:03:04 PM · #23 |
| Rockwell's site is a nice antidote to the mainsteam mags. I am starting to get intereted in photography again, and his comments on why he prefers Nikon over Canon DSLRs was very interesting. I will probably go Nikon now if I make the move into DSLRs because of the menu option differences and the great guides on his site. |
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07/19/2009 01:32:57 PM · #24 |
| Hey - Zeissman is back - We need updated pictures of those little girls. |
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07/19/2009 01:50:18 PM · #25 |
DPC is a bit weird, in that it is both a great place for photography advice, and a HORRIBLE place for photography advice.
I guess that's not much different from any kind of advice anywhere you get it though, as it all comes down to how you take it, apply it, and filter it so that you are getting what you need, and not just being overwhelmed by massive amounts of crap.
The problem with DPC is that much of the advice that floats around here has to do with how to make yourself a better photographer ON DPC.
Of course, this comes with its own bag of 'uh ohs', as being a successful photographer here won't necessarily translate elsewhere.
Also, there is that whole cult of "we're all awesome" here that is dangerous and a bit wearisome.
So, basically, take everything on here with a grain of salt, filter through it, don't let yourself stop growing because you've surrounded yourself with people that tell you you're awesome, and work on discovering what kind of photographer YOU are, instead of simply trying to be a DPC photographer, and it'll be one of the best sites you can ever think of being a part of while you're a part of it. |
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