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12/22/2008 03:20:13 PM · #1
Sorry if someone's posted this linky already - and if you haven't seen this yet, get ready to be blown away...

The Year 2008 in Photographs

*Edit to add* I dont know if i'm just in a weird mood or something, but looking at those images it makes some of these ribbons on DPC feel like a complete farce... (including my own)...

Message edited by author 2008-12-22 15:28:15.
12/22/2008 04:06:44 PM · #2
Thanks for the link, Krige. So many good photos.

Some of those images were in another (MSN?) link posted earlier, but these have a higher resolution. Also interesting to see different photos of the same events.
12/22/2008 04:07:10 PM · #3
Originally posted by BigK:

I dont know if i'm just in a weird mood or something, but looking at those images it makes some of these ribbons on DPC feel like a complete farce... (including my own)...


At the risk of putting words in your mouth; do you mean to say that of all the branches/genres of photography, only photojournalism/documentary photography is worth paying attention to?
12/23/2008 01:31:47 AM · #4
Originally posted by Tycho:

Originally posted by BigK:

I dont know if i'm just in a weird mood or something, but looking at those images it makes some of these ribbons on DPC feel like a complete farce... (including my own)...


At the risk of putting words in your mouth; do you mean to say that of all the branches/genres of photography, only photojournalism/documentary photography is worth paying attention to?


Nah I'm just saying I think photojournalism speaks and illustrates a greater deal of life in its inexplicable nature then say... a shot of a water droplet or a tomato sauce bottle. (or a woody holding a marble with some weird dudes face in it ;)

So what I meant by it being a farce is that I've basically seen more of 'real' life from that link than I have in months on DPC. I agree photography has many faces, and all serve their purpose - but those powerful images are unedited in their beauty and truth.

12/23/2008 01:48:41 AM · #5
Warning. EXTREMELY GRAPHIC

this photo brought tears to my eyes. maybe because I am a parent. But this is def one ofthe most heart wrenching photo's I have ever seen.

view at own risk
12/23/2008 02:06:10 AM · #6
i really do like some of these photographs, but i feel a few of them would have totally bombd here on dpc. thats just cause we're all crazy people here, but yeh. i guess it just edpends on who's looking at the photos really
12/23/2008 03:59:40 AM · #7
@BigK:
DPC photos = apples
Real Life = oranges
"A marble with some weird dudes face on it" = pomegranate
Feel free to compare and contrast. :)
12/23/2008 04:32:54 AM · #8
Originally posted by BigK:

Originally posted by Tycho:

Originally posted by BigK:

I dont know if i'm just in a weird mood or something, but looking at those images it makes some of these ribbons on DPC feel like a complete farce... (including my own)...


At the risk of putting words in your mouth; do you mean to say that of all the branches/genres of photography, only photojournalism/documentary photography is worth paying attention to?


Nah I'm just saying I think photojournalism speaks and illustrates a greater deal of life in its inexplicable nature then say... a shot of a water droplet or a tomato sauce bottle. (or a woody holding a marble with some weird dudes face in it ;)

So what I meant by it being a farce is that I've basically seen more of 'real' life from that link than I have in months on DPC. I agree photography has many faces, and all serve their purpose - but those powerful images are unedited in their beauty and truth.


i agree that, it is rare to find a world famous photograph to be that of a water droplet with perfect technicals.
12/23/2008 04:35:06 AM · #9
Originally posted by crayon:

i agree that, it is rare to find a world famous photograph to be that of a water droplet with perfect technicals.

How about this one?


eta: speaking of apples. LOL

Message edited by author 2008-12-23 04:36:25.
12/23/2008 04:43:31 AM · #10
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by crayon:

i agree that, it is rare to find a world famous photograph to be that of a water droplet with perfect technicals.

How about this one?


eta: speaking of apples. LOL


"Stopping Time
Harold Edgerton’s famous high speed picture of a bullet going through an apple. Taken in 1964, it became a very famous image , not least because it was such an unusual photo based on a great achievement in high speed photography. Edgerton, professor at MIT, is also inventor of the strobe flash and a pioneer of stop-action photography. He collaborated with Jacques-Yves Cousteau to experiment photographing some of the deepest seabeds in the world."

hey do u think that, due to the ease from the tools advancement, values of photographs has dropped?
12/23/2008 05:56:32 AM · #11
Originally posted by crayon:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by crayon:

i agree that, it is rare to find a world famous photograph to be that of a water droplet with perfect technicals.

How about this one?


eta: speaking of apples. LOL


"Stopping Time
Harold Edgerton’s famous high speed picture of a bullet going through an apple. Taken in 1964, it became a very famous image , not least because it was such an unusual photo based on a great achievement in high speed photography. Edgerton, professor at MIT, is also inventor of the strobe flash and a pioneer of stop-action photography. He collaborated with Jacques-Yves Cousteau to experiment photographing some of the deepest seabeds in the world."

hey do u think that, due to the ease from the tools advancement, values of photographs has dropped?


Well clearly the value of that apple has dropped. I know I wouldn't eat it.
12/23/2008 06:25:05 AM · #12
Originally posted by yanko:



Well clearly the value of that apple has dropped. I know I wouldn't eat it.


Why not? It has added iron?

:P
12/23/2008 06:34:31 AM · #13
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

@BigK:
DPC photos = apples
Real Life = oranges
"A marble with some weird dudes face on it" = pomegranate
Feel free to compare and contrast. :)


Mmmhh... I thought long and hard about a suitable response but have decided to let the sacred stickman bless us with his wisdom in the ancient Sheep Tongue dialect.

12/23/2008 12:07:33 PM · #14
I love how in picture #22, the people running away from the tear gas things are the civilian protesters while the people staying still/going toward the tear gas are the photographers. Anything for the picture, right?
12/23/2008 12:25:25 PM · #15
Originally posted by BigK:

Originally posted by yanko:



Well clearly the value of that apple has dropped. I know I wouldn't eat it.


Why not? It has added iron?

:P

More likely you'd get lead poisoning, or radiation poisoning if it happened to be made of depleted-uranium ...
12/23/2008 01:41:54 PM · #16
I dunno about the whole DPC thing about not having terrific images....

I see much on this site that moves me tremendously.

I'm 53 years old and this evokes so much for me as a child of the Vietnam era.



Yet this image came from someone who is insightful and deeply emotive rather than experienced.

Completely off the charts amazing, almost moreso BECAUSE it came from imagination rather than just capturing a moment.....anyone who saw something like this and had a camera would have caught it, how on earth did this just arise in someone's mind?

This image is just one of no less than about 50 of my favorites that just floor me as to their depth and meaning on a multitude of levels.

I think it does some of the truly wonderful photogs on this site a disservice to say that another e-mail full of greatest hits cancels out their contributions.

I know there is some great stuff there, but certainly not all of them are world class to me.

Art is subjective.....8>)


12/23/2008 03:10:33 PM · #17
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

I dunno about the whole DPC thing about not having terrific images....

I see much on this site that moves me tremendously.

I'm 53 years old and this evokes so much for me as a child of the Vietnam era.



Yet this image came from someone who is insightful and deeply emotive rather than experienced.

Completely off the charts amazing, almost moreso BECAUSE it came from imagination rather than just capturing a moment.....anyone who saw something like this and had a camera would have caught it, how on earth did this just arise in someone's mind?

This image is just one of no less than about 50 of my favorites that just floor me as to their depth and meaning on a multitude of levels.

I think it does some of the truly wonderful photogs on this site a disservice to say that another e-mail full of greatest hits cancels out their contributions.

I know there is some great stuff there, but certainly not all of them are world class to me.

Art is subjective.....8>)


You are 100% spot on - though if you read how it was staged and how many hours it took to get it 'just right' - therein lies the art... but only that.

No one said those cancels out other photogs contribution, and to be honest 'contribution' in DPC terms is an entirely different debate when you consider people here are entering to win something.

Personally, I would never hold an image like that - which is the same as a painting, an ode to fallen soldiers, or a poem (considering the setup, the thought behind it, shooting 50 different takes, picking one, photoshopping it etc.) more real and true to life, than one captured in the moment like some from the link posted - where the raw human emotion is exposed and the truth is so painstakingly beautiful in its presentation.

I'm not discrediting the image you posted (on the contrary) - it's a powerful one. But from my point of view - only as a piece of art and nothing more.

12/23/2008 04:22:57 PM · #18
Originally posted by geinafets:

I love how in picture #22, the people running away from the tear gas things are the civilian protesters while the people staying still/going toward the tear gas are the photographers. Anything for the picture, right?


thats what i was thinking. i also noticed one of the guys has the same lens as me:)
12/23/2008 04:51:18 PM · #19
Originally posted by BigK:

Sorry if someone's posted this linky already - and if you haven't seen this yet, get ready to be blown away...

The Year 2008 in Photographs

*Edit to add* I dont know if i'm just in a weird mood or something, but looking at those images it makes some of these ribbons on DPC feel like a complete farce... (including my own)...


I keep forgetting people like you exist. It only takes a moment to risk your life to get that perfect shot of sudden mortality. A photographer's entire life can be spent to only try to get that perfect shot of ordinary life lived with dignity & grace (it's only art). Looking thru the pics in your linky gives a very narrow, limited view of the artocities suffered & inflicted around the world. As if that's all that ever happened. It says nothing of the quiet courage of everyday, ordinary people living out their un-newsworthy lives, daring to be occasionally happy.
12/23/2008 05:18:55 PM · #20
Originally posted by pixelpig:

Looking thru the pics in your linky gives a very narrow, limited view of the artocities suffered & inflicted around the world. As if that's all that ever happened. It says nothing of the quiet courage of everyday, ordinary people living out their un-newsworthy lives, daring to be occasionally happy.


I counter...that those of us living in 'western countries' have no idea of the horrific 'everyday' that people all across the world have to go through EVERYDAY. These pics help bring life back into the correct perspective.
12/23/2008 05:36:26 PM · #21
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Completely off the charts amazing, almost moreso BECAUSE it came from imagination rather than just capturing a moment.....anyone who saw something like this and had a camera would have caught it, how on earth did this just arise in someone's mind?


You know people say this all the time but it doesn't make it true. This assumes these moments are A.) easily found in real life and B) when they do appear they can be easily shot. This is far from the case. A setup shot allows you time. Time to think about what you will shoot, time to set your camera, your lighting, etc. You also have as much margin of error as you like. Don't get it right the first time just reshoot it a second or third time. If the model is not convincing enough just coach them better or get a better actor. In real life you have no such thing. You may just get a split second to react to something you may not have expect yet you'll just have to get it right the first time because there are no do overs. Nevermind that often these photographers have to essentially put their own feelings aside, keep their heads when others are losing theres and just get the shot anyway. You say it's easy but have tried the things those photographers were shooting in that link? And no I'm not talking about the polar bear or the jelly fishes pictures. :)

Message edited by author 2008-12-23 17:38:45.
12/23/2008 05:44:11 PM · #22
Hey, this seems like an all new polarizing debate.
What shall we call it?
Art Photography vs. Photojournalism?
Art Photography vs. Real Life Photography?
Art, shut up and eat your popcorn?
12/23/2008 05:46:49 PM · #23
Art, shut up and eat your popcorn. :-)
12/23/2008 06:00:10 PM · #24
terrific photography. I was actually more disturbed by the image of a dozen photographer crouched, snapping shots of an injured man than I was at some of the "protected" images.

And the cassini flyby sequence, 12 images in 45 seconds was FANTASTIC.

thanks for posting the link!
12/23/2008 06:11:09 PM · #25
The baseball... Holy Crap! Wonder what the shutter speed on that one was?
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