I need an explanation please! - DPChallenge Forums

03/04/2008 08:36:22 AM · #1

You may not use ANY editing tool to move, remove or duplicate any element of your photograph that would change a typical viewer's description of the photograph (aside from color), even if the tool is otherwise legal, and regardless of whether you intended the change when the photograph was taken.

It doesn't bother me that this was disqualified.I don't want anyone to think I am "ranting". I am new at pp and photoshop.DAH! First off I know my screen resolution is off. (that is another problem in it's self!) But as far as the explination for the DQ I have know idea what I did wrong. P-L-E-A-S-E could someone explain what they mean so I do not make the same mistake twice. In simple terms so I can follow please!

Thanks!

idnic

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

03/04/2008 08:40:32 AM · #2

My monitor is calibrated and on it I can see what appears to be a deleted or colored in background (which will get you a DQ). If you open the image in PS and use levels to lighten the overall image, you should be able to see what I see. There are obvious darker areas around the subject and in a few other places in the bg, but the rest of the bg seems to be filled in with a flat gray/black.

If there was anything in the bg in the original that was removed, that would constitute "removing an element of your photograph that would change the typical viewer's description".

Hope that helps.

ZeppKash

Samsung Pro815

03/04/2008 08:42:11 AM · #3

Posting the original would help us to pick it apart. ;)

Dantzr

Pentax K-x

03/04/2008 08:44:26 AM · #4

I am a "Dah!" at Photoshop myself but it appears that the problem is with the background and how you did it. Can you post the original image and maybe we could see the problem better. And...maybe some of the most-intelligent Photoshop gurus can help you do whatever you had tried to do!

The cat is wonderful by the way!!

ETA: Wow, you people are QUICK!!!

Message edited by author 2008-03-04 08:45:41.

03/04/2008 08:45:14 AM · #5

so if I tried to darken the background with the paint bucket, that could mean a dq?

SDW

Tamron AF 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di LD Aspherical IF for Canon

03/04/2008 08:45:40 AM · #6

Without seeing your original it looks like you selected the background and remove elements that was present in your original. Using the selection tool is legal but your limited on what you can do with the selection area you created. If the selected area was a solid color you could have used levels, hue/saturation, and a few other tools to change the color of the background or even exposure to the point that you could have still seen some of the original background. But you are not allowed to remove the original background completely. In other words make elements disappear.

Remember legal tools have limitations on how they can be applied and used in advanced editing. I know some of the rules are hard to understand, I have been here four years and still have problems from time-to-time understanding them. So I err on the side of caution.

If you post your original unedited version (resized) it would be easier for us to give you a good example.

I hope this helps.
Scott

Message edited by author 2008-03-04 08:47:08.

idnic

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

03/04/2008 08:47:11 AM · #7

Originally posted by meow:

so if I tried to darken the background with the paint bucket, that could mean a dq?

If by darkening the background you removed / obscured what was already there (window, chair, wall, etc.), then yeah, it can.

As others said, seeing the original would help us to see what you changed & help you to understand which step caused the DQ. Right now we're only forced to guess since you didn't list editing steps on your submission.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

03/04/2008 08:49:30 AM · #8

origional

I did not remove anything I just tried to darken it.

Message edited by author 2008-03-04 08:52:08.

Spork99

Canon EOS M6 Mk II

Canon EF-M 22mm STM Lens

03/04/2008 08:52:59 AM · #9

Originally posted by meow:

so if I tried to darken the background with the paint bucket, that could mean a dq?

If you darken to the point of obliterating detail, yes.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

03/04/2008 08:54:16 AM · #10

You deleted the entire background - that changes what the picture was. You can darken with vignetting or burning (in advanced challenges only!) but the essence of the background (and all other elements) must remain. Does this make sense?

03/04/2008 08:55:01 AM · #11

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by meow:
so if I tried to darken the background with the paint bucket, that could mean a dq?

If you darken to the point of obliterating detail, yes.

So is that what I did? Is what you see in the background considered detail?

SDW

Tamron AF 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di LD Aspherical IF for Canon

03/04/2008 08:57:40 AM · #12

Using your original this would have been legal in advanced.

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