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01/21/2008 04:57:00 PM · #1 |
This is directed mostly at wedding photographers, but others may participate as well. Spending someone else's money is always fun!
I am gearing up for the 2008 wedding season, and I want to upgrade my gear. I have a budget of $3000.
My current gear:
Canon 10D
Canon Rebel XT
Canon 30D
one flash
gary fong lighstphere
one Alien Bee, 800, with brolly
50 1.8
24-70 2.8L USM
70-200 2.8L IS
28-135 3.5-5.6
18-55 kit lens
What would you add or exchange? I am trying to sell my 10D (with quite a few goodies and accessories) for $500, which would add to the overall budget. I have my eye on the 5D and/or 40D.
So, you have $3000 or possibly $3500. Spend it on photography toys for me please :)
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01/21/2008 05:10:58 PM · #2 |
5D is FANTASTIC for weddings... i wonder why I waited so long to get one..
I love using my lightsphere too they are great.
I use the 50mm 1.4 quite a bit as well as the 85mm 1.8. They seem to be great value for money and soooo sharp. If you can perhaps get rid of the 18-55 and the 28-135 and try and get a 17-40 it would be a great lens to have. I use that quite a bit too.
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01/21/2008 05:12:43 PM · #3 |
1 word- NIKON D3!
EDIT: I just realized that's more than one word. Still...
Message edited by author 2008-01-21 17:13:06. |
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01/21/2008 05:57:34 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by letenele:
This is directed mostly at wedding photographers, but others may participate as well. Spending someone else's money is always fun!
I am gearing up for the 2008 wedding season, and I want to upgrade my gear. I have a budget of $3000.
My current gear:
Canon 10D
Canon Rebel XT
Canon 30D
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Lose the XT and 10D, get a 40D. Huge improvement in DR, speed, noise, and the focus -wow! You will do handsprings! Keeping one of the bodies as a backup in case on the main bodies has to go out for repair isn't a bad idea either.
sell a body for $500 and get a 40D for $1250, $750 spent.
Originally posted by letenele:
one flash
gary fong lighstphere
one Alien Bee, 800, with brolly
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you need a second flash. The 580EX2 can be had for $350 or less and it's a bargain at that price. Put it on the 40D and you've got a killer combo. A Demb Flipit (or you can make a bounce card and attach with velcro) is IMO a bit easier to deal with than a LS. If you're useing the AB for formals, AB makes a folding softbox, 2x3 feet, that would be great on there. I plan to get this set up before my season starts (been packing up a studio light and using a non-folding 2x2 softbox).
GET A FLASH METER if you don't already have one, and 2 pocket wizard plus 2s (4 is better, backup and all). One on camera and one on light for hte church formals. If you get a sekonic 358 you can get a PW module for it - trigger the lights with no cords - awesome how this makes your life sooooo much easier!
580, $350. Sekonic about $300/w PW module, 2 PWs $375, softbox i think $150..it seemed pretty inexpensive. $1175 total
Originally posted by letenele:
50 1.8
24-70 2.8L USM
70-200 2.8L IS
28-135 3.5-5.6
18-55 kit lens
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you could lose the kit lens I think. and i don't like the 50 1.8 at all, so I'd lose it too.
the 10-22 is amazing - get it, you will not regret it!
Then either (or both) the 85 1.8 and 50 1.4. The 85 is great, but at times a tad tight on a crop body. The 50 1.4 is soooo much better than the 1.8 platicrap lens you'll use it often for portraiture. the kit lens is just redundent.
10-22 is $640, 50 1.4 $290 and 85 1.8 315 (rebates on all three right now) $1245, and you can get $150ish for the two lenses you sell, net cost $1100.
Originally posted by letenele:
What would you add or exchange? I am trying to sell my 10D (with quite a few goodies and accessories) for $500, which would add to the overall budget. I have my eye on the 5D and/or 40D.
So, you have $3000 or possibly $3500. Spend it on photography toys for me please :) |
5D...wait. I used one for a few weeks that a friend was selling and the 40D is better in every way. Maybe, just maybe, at 3200 the 5D is a tad cleaner, but that's maybe. In all other categories it's teh same or less than the 40D.
The 28-135 is a nice lens IMO, and good for studio work and when you want a walkaround or need a backup lens for an emergency.
The 17-40 is too slow for weddings. The 16-35 is quite nice, but unless you get a 5D ( or it's replacement -surely it will be out this year!) then it dupes too much of the 24-70 range.
Total for my suggestions: $3025 (if my quickie head math is correct.)
Message edited by author 2008-01-21 18:09:01.
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01/21/2008 06:12:57 PM · #5 |
Get rid of your Rebel, and your kit lens.
Buy a 5D, or if you can, a 1ds M3, 10-22mm, 85mm (nice portrait lens)
I'd keep the 10D, and 30D for backup.
If you get any strobes, just remember this. ALL strobes are made in China. Just look. So, therefore, decide what whistles and bells you want and get the most for your money.
I can spend your money even further.
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01/21/2008 07:09:51 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:
If you get any strobes, just remember this. ALL strobes are made in China. Just look. So, therefore, decide what whistles and bells you want and get the most for your money.
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Not all strobes are made in China. ABs are made in the US, so says their website (perhaps of chinese parts). Besides, everything else is made in china, so what? 10 years ago it was korea and when I was growing , Japan. Most Hondas and Toyotas are made in the US as are most US branded cars, but it's the engineering and quality controls that make the difference, not the nationality of the assembly line workers.
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01/21/2008 08:33:09 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:
If you get any strobes, just remember this. ALL strobes are made in China. Just look. So, therefore, decide what whistles and bells you want and get the most for your money.
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Not all strobes are made in China. ABs are made in the US, so says their website (perhaps of chinese parts). Besides, everything else is made in china, so what? 10 years ago it was korea and when I was growing , Japan. Most Hondas and Toyotas are made in the US as are most US branded cars, but it's the engineering and quality controls that make the difference, not the nationality of the assembly line workers. |
I bet you that a lot of Alien Bee parts are bought out of China. They probly make the housing.
The point being, my dear professor, is this...
Unlike the horses we buy for our art, the Canon, the Nikon, there are components for our art that is not made by the manufacturer.
Canon, and Nikon have strict manufacture policies in place to build a quality body, or a lens. I have a hard time ever seeing them using another party to build to their standards.
However, like your automobile, just because a strobe is bought in America, or Switzerland, or Germany, or Italy, and has a brand name placed on the housing, does not give it any guarantee of something special, or a guarantee of quality beyond a warrenty, or a guarantee of better made piece of equipment than the companies competitor.
Strobes are like every other item in the world being made. Cheap labor.
The lights are made per the companies standards, yes of course. But, what used to be a Swiss, German, Italian, American made strobe by people that had a stake in the product, now is mass produced by people that just build a strobe because they are under contract.
And, as we have seen in recent months, something from China is not a guarantee of quality, even under a contract.
So,therefore, when buying a strobe, figure out what whistles and bells you want, look at the warrenty, compare prices, and go for it knowing that some factory in China made your light.
Now, if strobes were for a smaller, more lucrative market where they are the work horses for the industry, say, like the motion picture industry, then those strobes may be less cost effective for the average person, in turn, having those strobes made at their due manufacturer.
MOST hot lights for the motion picture industry are not made in China. And even then I bet most of the components for these lights are shipped in from China.
Like Canon, and Nikon there is a standard of quality for hot lights because unlike most photoshoots, the amount of money invested in time and man power is way more greater.
Mole Richardson lights are made and assembled in LA. Arri Lighting is out of France. Desisti is made in Italy. Along with a few other manufacturers, these lighting manufactures do a couple of things to keep the prices high.
They serve a specialized industry, and some only lease there equipment as opposed to selling. Then there is the "out doing the competitor" thing making a one of a kind, specialized product that either one person uses for all of his work, or one company builds and can not be bought, or leased because of limited quantity.
That is why "So what".
Looking forward to your rebuttal.
Message edited by author 2008-01-22 09:59:05.
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01/21/2008 10:16:35 PM · #8 |
ok, so how do I "get rid" of the 10D and other unneeded stuff? Hey, does anyone here need a camera? :P
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01/21/2008 10:23:40 PM · #9 |
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never mind though :)
Message edited by author 2008-01-21 22:24:58. |
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01/22/2008 11:37:26 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by letenele:
I am trying to sell my 10D (with quite a few goodies and accessories) for $500 |
would have to be a lot of accessories, i just picked up a 20D (approx 21,000 shots) for $500! |
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