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Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

11/27/2007 07:36:10 PM · #26

Speaking of that poll (or any of them, for that matter), how does one get to the poll archive?

There is always a link on current polls to get the archive, but I still don't know how to get to get there later on.

11/27/2007 07:42:42 PM · #27

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by kirbic:

In order to implement either, we really need to revamp the voting page, which is a bigger task than it seems. I can't comment on a timeline, but a show of public support cannot hurt ;-)

Does it need layout or technical revamping?

Both, really.

11/27/2007 07:46:24 PM · #28

Originally posted by Beetle:

Now that is a really interesting question! I can get there, but my path to it won't help you. I'd assumed that it was publicly accessible. I'll ask...

11/27/2007 07:48:15 PM · #29

Originally posted by kirbic:

In order to implement either, we really need to revamp the voting page, which is a bigger task than it seems. I can't comment on a timeline, but a show of public support cannot hurt ;-)

Wasn't there a 720px challenge at some stage? - Or was that my imagination?

11/27/2007 07:48:57 PM · #30

Originally posted by jhonan:

Originally posted by kirbic:
In order to implement either, we really need to revamp the voting page, which is a bigger task than it seems. I can't comment on a timeline, but a show of public support cannot hurt ;-)

Wasn't there a 720px challenge at some stage? - Or was that my imagination?

There were several. There hasn't been one in some time.

11/27/2007 07:53:43 PM · #31

Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by jhonan:

Originally posted by kirbic:
In order to implement either, we really need to revamp the voting page, which is a bigger task than it seems. I can't comment on a timeline, but a show of public support cannot hurt ;-)

Wasn't there a 720px challenge at some stage? - Or was that my imagination?

There were several. There hasn't been one in some time.

Well if the coding was already done for the 720px challenges, isn't it just a case of making that change permanent? Or am I oversimplifying things?

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

11/27/2007 07:59:00 PM · #32

Originally posted by jhonan:

Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by jhonan:

Originally posted by kirbic:
In order to implement either, we really need to revamp the voting page, which is a bigger task than it seems. I can't comment on a timeline, but a show of public support cannot hurt ;-)

Wasn't there a 720px challenge at some stage? - Or was that my imagination?

There were several. There hasn't been one in some time.

Well if the coding was already done for the 720px challenges, isn't it just a case of making that change permanent? Or am I oversimplifying things?

While that could be done, it results in a less-than-optimal voting experience. On the most common screen resolutions, the voting bar is of the bottom of the screen for full-height images.

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

11/27/2007 08:03:04 PM · #33

also, unless i am totally thinking of soemthing else, langdon had to manually code the 720 ones. it's not automated, by any stretch.

fotomann_forever

11/27/2007 08:10:41 PM · #34

ouch!

glad2badad

DJI Mavic Air 2

Sears 55mm f/1.4 M42

11/27/2007 08:18:22 PM · #35

Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by Beetle:
Speaking of that poll (or any of them, for that matter), how does one get to the poll archive?

There is always a link on current polls to get the archive, but I still don't know how to get to get there later on.

Now that is a really interesting question! I can get there, but my path to it won't help you. I'd assumed that it was publicly accessible. I'll ask...

I have it bookmarked. :-)
Poll Archives

edit to change link name.

Message edited by author 2007-11-27 20:19:36.

Beetle

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

11/27/2007 08:19:40 PM · #36

Originally posted by glad2badad:

I have it bookmarked. :-)
DPC Survey/Polls

Thank you :-)

ericwoo

Nikon D800

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED

11/27/2007 08:20:07 PM · #37

Originally posted by karmat:

also, unless i am totally thinking of soemthing else, langdon had to manually code the 720 ones. it's not automated, by any stretch.

So that's why it appears that our constant requests for a more up-to-date size allowances are ignored. The site is ready, now we just need the boss to make it happen.

glad2badad

DJI Mavic Air 2

Sears 55mm f/1.4 M42

11/27/2007 08:20:19 PM · #38

You're welcome! :-D

11/27/2007 08:32:00 PM · #39

Originally posted by glad2badad:

I have it bookmarked. :-)
Poll Archives

Good link - I've never seen that before. It was interesting reading some of the really old polls from 2002!

The first 'image size' poll in March 2006 saw '800x800' winning. This was put to the vote again in April 2006 when 60% voted in favour of a size increase to '720x720'

yanko

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

11/27/2007 08:34:31 PM · #40

Originally posted by Beetle:

Originally posted by cheekymunky:
there was a poll recently about this... but I can't rememeber the results!

It was very close to 3% of all being on dial up.

So according to the poll from glad2badad's link it was 24% on dialup. Big difference. What would make more sense is to poll the actual speed people are connecting at. I'd say there are probably many who are using cable/dsl getting less than ideal speeds so the number of those with fairly slow connections could be even greater.

Message edited by author 2007-11-27 20:36:51.

jdannels

Nikon D300s

Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM for Nikon

11/27/2007 08:41:32 PM · #41

Originally posted by yanko:

Originally posted by Beetle:

Originally posted by cheekymunky:
there was a poll recently about this... but I can't rememeber the results!

It was very close to 3% of all being on dial up.

So according to the poll from glad2badad's link it was 24% on dialup. Big difference.

I'm confused, maybe my math's are wrong
44 out of 1380 are on 56K or lower. Wouldn't that be 3.1%?

11/27/2007 09:02:15 PM · #42

There have been four connection speed polls. Here are the data from them:

ETA: The scale on the right is for the "total responses" data, tle left scale is for the dialup, cable/DSL and T1 or greater data sets

Message edited by author 2007-11-27 21:05:18.

yanko

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

11/27/2007 09:08:46 PM · #43

Originally posted by jdannels:

Originally posted by yanko:

Originally posted by Beetle:

Originally posted by cheekymunky:
there was a poll recently about this... but I can't rememeber the results!

It was very close to 3% of all being on dial up.

So according to the poll from glad2badad's link it was 24% on dialup. Big difference.

I'm confused, maybe my math's are wrong
44 out of 1380 are on 56K or lower. Wouldn't that be 3.1%?

Oops. I looked at a poll from 2002. My bad. It was one of the first polls on that archive page so I thought it was the most recent one.

NikonJeb

Nikon D850

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28-300mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR

11/27/2007 09:10:22 PM · #44

As one of the people here with the worst dialkup going.....33,600 at best, and if it rains up here on the mountain......fugedaboudit....I would rather drive to a coffee shop, use the kid's laptop, and upload from a disc with their wireless conn than have the size at 640.

Gordon

RIM BlackBerry Curve

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

11/27/2007 09:10:54 PM · #45

Originally posted by kirbic:

In the past, we've been reluctant to change the limit because we still had a small but significant number of dialup users. That number has shrunk to 3.2% per the last poll, and is shrinking at the rate of half every two years. Moving to a somewhat higher file size seems at this point to be a reasonable thing to do.
We've talked about coupling the 720px change to a file size increase, though nothing is yet set in stone. In order to implement either, we really need to revamp the voting page, which is a bigger task than it seems. I can't comment on a timeline, but a show of public support cannot hurt ;-)

Any thought on accomodation of other emerging aspect ratios

zxaar

11/27/2007 09:15:09 PM · #46

Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by kirbic:
In the past, we've been reluctant to change the limit because we still had a small but significant number of dialup users. That number has shrunk to 3.2% per the last poll, and is shrinking at the rate of half every two years. Moving to a somewhat higher file size seems at this point to be a reasonable thing to do.
We've talked about coupling the 720px change to a file size increase, though nothing is yet set in stone. In order to implement either, we really need to revamp the voting page, which is a bigger task than it seems. I can't comment on a timeline, but a show of public support cannot hurt ;-)

Any thought on accomodation of other emerging aspect ratios

I second this aspect ratio part.

glad2badad

DJI Mavic Air 2

Sears 55mm f/1.4 M42

11/27/2007 09:34:30 PM · #47

If I remember correctly, one of the biggest obstacles to an increase in challenge entry image size was the screen resolutions in use by the community (see the OP by

Langdon in the linked thread).

As

kirbic pointed out, a rework of the voting page layout is an issue with larger image sizes (reference the screen resolution link above). The problem lies in the vertical aspect.

Personally I think if it went to 720, then do 720x720 (don't worry about various aspect ratios) and let the submitters beware the potential backlash for using the full 720 on the vertical (many viewers/voters wouldn't be able to see the entire image without scrolling).

JustinM

Fujifilm X-T30

Fujifilm XF 18-55mm f/2.8-4 OIS

11/27/2007 09:47:19 PM · #48

I agree with Robert (Bear_Music). I am one of the people in that 3 percent that have a 56K or lower dial up. Even with the slow internet I would love to see the size go to 200kb and the dimensions up 720x720 if not higher. The poll results seem to want it.

d56ranger

Canon EOS-20D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

11/27/2007 10:16:37 PM · #49

I'm afraid that mnphotoblogger is comparing apples to oranges here. They being photo dimensions vs internet speed; the poll only showed photo dimensions.

If there is a change then it is obvious that the 56K'rs will not be playing on a level playing field; and, they are already at a great disadvantage with their slower access. I know that here n northern Minnesota many of my friends DO NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY or choice to convert to greater speeds due to their location on the grid. This also holds true to other places I have lived (n. California, ne. Utah, n. Idaho, Washington, and several other places I have lived.

One of the principle challenges to the 56K individual is cost. Some of the others are the old fashioned copper wire systems currently in place, the unwillingness of the phone,/wire companies to update to fibber optics or other compatible transmission systems especially in rural areas, etc.

I believe that as long as everyone has to play by the same rules all things are equal. I would vote for no change. As an aside, though I admit I may be wrong, wouldn't it be that the higher the quality the images are on the net the more likely thy are to be stolen.