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11/14/2007 12:52:56 PM · #51 |
So what was your light set up here? Was it two flashes - one to light you and one to light the background? I am just starting to mess around with snoots and such to work the background. I do have some color correction gels as well, but nothing strong enough to really throw good color on the background. The whole idea of using a flash/2 flashes is still pretty new to me and we are experimenting alot. Fortunately there are alot of good mentors here at DPC to guide as along. Thank you for your help! |
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11/14/2007 01:07:23 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by timfythetoo:
So what was your light set up here? Was it two flashes - one to light you and one to light the background? I am just starting to mess around with snoots and such to work the background. I do have some color correction gels as well, but nothing strong enough to really throw good color on the background. The whole idea of using a flash/2 flashes is still pretty new to me and we are experimenting alot. Fortunately there are alot of good mentors here at DPC to guide as along. Thank you for your help! |
Hopefully these give enough info:
//gordonmcgregor.blogspot.com/2007/01/ut-gobo-test-shot.html
//gordonmcgregor.blogspot.com/2007/01/ut-gobo-light-test-2.html |
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11/14/2007 01:23:04 PM · #53 |
So I've been editing a glam session from last weekend all day and really want to share them.... unfortunately, I cannot. These are destined for a modeling agency that requires they not be displayed anywhere else online or otherwise. :(
But, I can share this little charity project.... I was approached by the mother of the children in this image who asked if I could donate a short session for the grandparents shown here because the grandfather has a terminal illness and they couldn't afford to have a portrait done with their only grandchildren. I only spent about 20 minutes with them, but gave them several nice portraits to choose from. They liked this one best and thanked me for their 11X17 with tears in their eyes. It was very much worth the free session.
Shot in studio, obviously, with one bg light and one main light with softbox. Posing was a little challenging since both grandparents walk with canes and can't stand long, so we settled on having them seated for the shoot. I like the twinkle in grandpa's eyes. :)
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11/14/2007 01:40:55 PM · #54 |
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11/14/2007 01:47:00 PM · #55 |
Originally posted by hopper:
just gonna pretent i didn't read that ... hate to chastize an SC member in public
  
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Originally posted by ursula:
I'm in the "I have absolutely no idea" group, but I'd really like to learn about portraiture. I would REALLY like to learn about it. Could you put me in the "knows nothing" list please? |
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If you put ursula in the "knows nothing" group, then you better move me to something even lower, such as the "everything he knows is wrong" group. |
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11/14/2007 01:56:19 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by ursula:
I'm in the "I have absolutely no idea" group, but I'd really like to learn about portraiture. I would REALLY like to learn about it. Could you put me in the "knows nothing" list please? |
I'm in the 'just getting started' group too, please. |
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11/14/2007 02:03:34 PM · #57 |
| If Gordon and Ursula are going for the amateur realm then I way overstated my capabilities. |
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11/14/2007 02:11:47 PM · #58 |
Maybe the pro vs amateur categorization is cause some confusion, would a skill level of Novice, Intermediate, Advanced, and Expert be better?
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11/14/2007 02:13:48 PM · #59 |
| As we've proven, it's useless to bog into ratings or relative ratings. Categorizations be darned, let's let the images speak for themselves. We've all got something to offer and something to learn. =) |
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11/14/2007 02:21:00 PM · #60 |
Originally posted by smurfguy:
As we've proven, it's useless to bog into ratings or relative ratings. Categorizations be darned, let's let the images speak for themselves. We've all got something to offer and something to learn. =) |
Yup. The more I learn, the less I know, so ratings are somewhat useless. |
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11/14/2007 02:28:09 PM · #61 |
Can I get in on this group? Not sure where I would fit in your list though. I would think advanced Amateur
Message edited by author 2007-11-14 15:56:54.
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11/14/2007 02:34:16 PM · #62 |
small defense of "rating system":
I've read in other forums where someone wanted advice about lighting large groups. Initially, the advice ranged from "go outside", to "you need thousands of dollars to do it properly". Eventually, a pro photographer with experience in that area pointed out that even though it breaks a rule of lighting, the best thing to do is light the group from head on just above the camera - this way the light fall off won't be as extreme as "proper" lighting from the side with fill. He showed examples ... people agreed.
If a novice asks for help and only gets advice from an amateur, then he's probably not learning all there is to learn ... the novice should know that at the time the advice is given.
That being said, dropping the rating system is fine by me ... just thought it'd be helpful.
:)
ps ... Don't bother poking holes in my perhaps lame story, it's just a quick explanation of my thinking. |
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11/14/2007 02:43:21 PM · #63 |
| Oh, I wasn't suggesting that we get rid of the rating system - just let folks choose and not worry about it too much. As far as your story, I imagine the guy's example images would have stood on their own regardless of his designation. =) |
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11/14/2007 03:24:38 PM · #64 |
A recent senior session. She wanted to look like she stepped out of the pages of a high fashion magazine. She is only 18....but I think she looks way beyond her years. I did desaurate the image ALOT....and she looks very pale....however I thought the original looked quite blue. I like the pale skin against the dark background.
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11/14/2007 03:30:42 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by njsabs2323:
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All I can say is wow! Great portrait, Jennifer! Let me see if I can dissect it:
- Lit from the left - looks like flash reflected on a large card or wall. Can't tell how the hair below her left ear is lit... I don't see a reflector in her eyes. ???
- I assuming the cold color effect is mostly a function of post processing?
- PP effect for the lines in the bkg. Can't tell what the bkg is.
Well, looks like I have more questions than answers. =) +Fav, btw. |
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11/14/2007 03:32:48 PM · #66 |
| I would like to participate too, since portraits are my favorite field of Photography. |
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11/14/2007 03:38:31 PM · #67 |
Originally posted by mia67:
I would like to participate too, since portraits are my favorite field of Photography. |
You have some great looking portraits and a very distinctive style :- ) |
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11/14/2007 03:40:03 PM · #68 |
| I'm just getting started with this area of photography, I'd like to be part of this. |
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11/14/2007 03:40:32 PM · #69 |
Originally posted by njsabs2323:
A recent senior session. She wanted to look like she stepped out of the pages of a high fashion magazine. She is only 18....but I think she looks way beyond her years. I did desaurate the image ALOT....and she looks very pale....however I thought the original looked quite blue. I like the pale skin against the dark background. |
Do you use a silver reflector? |
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11/14/2007 03:48:41 PM · #70 |
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One more....just for fun. That paint took two hours to put on and three days to wash completely off. A very fun photoshoot. |
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11/14/2007 03:52:39 PM · #71 |
[i]Do you use a silver reflector?[/i]
I do use a reflector often.....I did have it placed to the right of her. I used a bunch of fabric.....white (for the foreground), blue, and black(for the background). It is all natural light taken in my garage. Garage light is usually perfect of portraits.....like a gigantic diffused softbox. |
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11/14/2007 03:59:17 PM · #72 |
okay I guess it's my turn
This was actually the third time me and this model worked together. She's very short (5'2 pr 5'3") and wanted to have an update to her portfolio. She has the idea that she wants to be very sexy, but has a different idea of what sexy is (thinks big boobs are sexy). These were some of the shots were the look of her face and position of her body were more important.
It's hard to pull cute out of her too...and I think I did that in a couple of them (especially the one when she was smiling). By the way these were the ones at the beginning of the shoot. You can tell she got more comfortable with me later in the shoot and in a shoot afterwards that i'll post later.
Oh yeah...I left the copyright on these as i would for my website. Sorry.
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11/14/2007 04:02:32 PM · #73 |
Added lighting details to this one. Just to show that a bunch of lighting equipment is not necessary.
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11/14/2007 04:04:14 PM · #74 |
I would love to learn more about portraiture technique. I probably fall in the Amateur group.
Online mentorship from those more in the know would be excellent.
Here is an example from my last living room session
I definitely need to re-edit this to make the blacks better match (just recently got a tip from Cindi on how best to go about it).
Notes:
BG - is two king-sized white sheets. The top sheet is actually hanging over a black sheet which is blocking light from a huge window. Under the bottom sheet I placed a bit of plywood so that the stool would not sink into the sheet. In edit I generally select color of the bg around hair and then paint the bg a bit till it looks as uniform as I desire (and wrinkle-free). Sometimes I leave shadows (as I did here). I would love to learn better methods for re-creating shadows.
Light - 580EX on camera as master. Gary Fong diffuser domed. Pointing at subject. 430EX as slave on stand with shoot-thru brolly. Set above the subject's head and angled down. It is about 45 degrees and is only a couple of feet from the subject. A 2:1 lighting ratio (more light from the master which is physically farther away from the subject creates even lighting from both sources). White reflector on camera right just out of frame. (Again, looking for even light).
Lens - Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II. There isn't enough room to use my Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM - it does a poor job of focusing at close distances.
Settings - f8 at 1/200. ISO is always 100 for indoor ports.
Subject - is a couple of feet from the bg and I am about 6 feet from the subject. He is facing the main light (430ex).
Did I miss anything?
Message edited by author 2007-11-14 16:30:34. |
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11/14/2007 04:52:01 PM · #75 |
This is my most recent portrait, I did it outdoor with use of natural light, I usually do that kind of portrait, but mostly with kids, and
to tell you the truth, it's so much easier and fun with kids then with adults.
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