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09/24/2007 05:26:51 PM · #1
Yesterday I read about a very very easy method to adjust your whitebalance in a good way.

- open photo
- duplicate layer
- filter -> blur -> average
- new adjustment layer -> curves
- use the gray pipet and click in the photo
- you can see the average-layer is nice and gray via the curves-layer
- delete the average-layer (the duplicate of the background)
- flatten image

tadaaaa!
09/24/2007 05:31:14 PM · #2
Here is the way I do it, I set it up as an action. :)
A trick to find the grey pont
I'll have to give yours a go too.
09/24/2007 05:37:03 PM · #3
That sounds a lot like what Auto White Balance will do on your camera. It looks for overall averages in the lighting and subtracts out any color cast.

Now... take a close-up picture of a girl in a red dress and try it again. :-)

09/24/2007 05:39:43 PM · #4
Originally posted by dwterry:

That sounds a lot like what Auto White Balance will do on your camera. It looks for overall averages in the lighting and subtracts out any color cast.

Now... take a close-up picture of a girl in a red dress and try it again. :-)


Ah well, sometimes it's just handy. I always have the WB on auto, and doing this little trick makes it work better. My auto WB mostly goes a little magenta.

I tried on several photos and it worked good. Will try the red-dress-girl-photo when the occasion comes.

Message edited by author 2007-09-24 17:46:54.
09/24/2007 05:49:50 PM · #5
Originally posted by dwterry:

Now... take a close-up picture of a girl in a red dress and try it again. :-)


If that's the problem, you just aren't close enough...
09/24/2007 06:22:14 PM · #6
Lol... it'll be interesting to see what you get on the close up. Really, any image that has a strong color in it should throw off your white balance (whether in-camera Auto WB or this technique in post).

Instead of Auto WB (either before or after) I highly recommend trying to get it right in camera. Dial in tungsten or flourescent if you don't have time. Shoot a neutral card (gray, white, black, it doesn't matter) and set a custom white balance if you do have time. Or ... shoot raw and fix it up in the raw converter (but even then, it's still easier if you get it right in camera).

The thing is ... Auto WB is so easily tricked into picking the wrong color cast as to make it unreliable. However, I did run into a situation last week where it worked perfectly! I was having a hard time getting the bride's dress to look right (in camera) due to mixed lighting, but switching to AWB and shooting her dress did the trick. (which only goes to show, I'm willing to break my own rules when it makes sense to do so )


09/24/2007 07:08:27 PM · #7
In the version of Zoombrowser that came with my Rebel XT, you could open a RAW file, select the Dropper tool from the White Balance area, and select a point on your photo which is supposed to be white, and viola.

I can't find a similar option in CS3, does anybody know of a WB dropper in CS3?. That temperature stuff that seems to be the only option is crap.

?????????????????/
09/24/2007 07:10:57 PM · #8
Assuming you are shooting RAW, ACR has the Dropper tool.

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

In the version of Zoombrowser that came with my Rebel XT, you could open a RAW file, select the Dropper tool from the White Balance area, and select a point on your photo which is supposed to be white, and viola.

I can't find a similar option in CS3, does anybody know of a WB dropper in CS3?. That temperature stuff that seems to be the only option is crap.

?????????????????/
09/24/2007 07:12:47 PM · #9
I'm hoping for a way to do it in CS3, so I don't have to use multiple programs. I'm lazy.
Originally posted by talmy:

Assuming you are shooting RAW, ACR has the Dropper tool.

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

In the version of Zoombrowser that came with my Rebel XT, you could open a RAW file, select the Dropper tool from the White Balance area, and select a point on your photo which is supposed to be white, and viola.

I can't find a similar option in CS3, does anybody know of a WB dropper in CS3?. That temperature stuff that seems to be the only option is crap.

?????????????????/

09/25/2007 10:29:44 AM · #10
Whenever I open a raw file with Photoshop, ACR pops up first. It's part of CS3. ACR - Adobe Camera Raw (plugin for Photoshop).

Message edited by author 2007-09-25 10:33:48.
09/25/2007 10:36:41 AM · #11
I have CS2, but I just go to levels (under image>ajustments) and there is a white dropper there. I use it to click on a part of the photo that is supposed to be white and that usually does the trick!
09/25/2007 10:38:41 AM · #12
Correct WB is so overrated. Camera is a creative tool not a copy machine.
09/25/2007 10:48:48 AM · #13
I am having problems getting a white rose to look white. It does have a pale pink deep in the center. Straight from the camera the rose looks almost a peachy color. In the post processing I can get it lighter, but not white. I am not very good as post processing yet. I have tried a few things with my camera, but nothing really seems to be working. I am using only natural light on the flower. Any suggestions?

Message edited by author 2007-09-25 10:49:24.
09/25/2007 10:52:50 AM · #14
Originally posted by Nikolai1024:

Correct WB is so overrated. Camera is a creative tool not a copy machine.


Tell that to a model who ends up with green skin. ;)
09/25/2007 10:55:12 AM · #15
Originally posted by idnic:

Originally posted by Nikolai1024:

Correct WB is so overrated. Camera is a creative tool not a copy machine.


Tell that to a model who ends up with green skin. ;)


If that's the look you going for...
09/25/2007 11:18:32 AM · #16
Originally posted by dwterry:


Now... take a close-up picture of a girl in a red dress and try it again. :-)


Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? Look again.
09/25/2007 11:27:49 AM · #17
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by dwterry:


Now... take a close-up picture of a girl in a red dress and try it again. :-)


Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? Look again.


Take the blue pill.....
09/25/2007 12:59:53 PM · #18
Originally posted by talmy:

Whenever I open a raw file with Photoshop, ACR pops up first. It's part of CS3. ACR - Adobe Camera Raw (plugin for Photoshop).

Oh, so that's what it's called. Ya, I use that, but there's no dropper that I can find for WB, just some 'temperature' gobbledygook. :-(
09/25/2007 02:38:26 PM · #19
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by dwterry:


Now... take a close-up picture of a girl in a red dress and try it again. :-)


Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? Look again.


There is no spoon! (and according to Nikolai, there is no WB either )

09/25/2007 02:43:44 PM · #20
Originally posted by JLC:

I am having problems getting a white rose to look white. It does have a pale pink deep in the center. Straight from the camera the rose looks almost a peachy color. In the post processing I can get it lighter, but not white. I am not very good as post processing yet. I have tried a few things with my camera, but nothing really seems to be working. I am using only natural light on the flower. Any suggestions?


Open a levels adjustment layer, choose the white eyedropper, and click on a portion of the petal you want to be white.

R.
09/25/2007 02:53:12 PM · #21
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by talmy:

Whenever I open a raw file with Photoshop, ACR pops up first. It's part of CS3. ACR - Adobe Camera Raw (plugin for Photoshop).

Oh, so that's what it's called. Ya, I use that, but there's no dropper that I can find for WB, just some 'temperature' gobbledygook. :-(

Use either levels or curves - both have eyedroppers.

BTW, you can also use the other eyedroppers. My normal workflow is to use all three - white sets white point, black sets black point, and gray ... well, you can guess. I usually click around until it looks right, then check the color in a couple of places.
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