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01/23/2004 07:13:34 PM · #1 |
Has anyone owned both Paint Shop Pro and Adobe Photoshop Full Version? I was wondering how Paint Shop Pro stacked up against Photoshop.
Are there any must have features in Photoshop that Paint Shop is lacking?
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01/23/2004 07:15:47 PM · #2 |
photo shop is the better one, i think anyone who has used both would agree.
it pretty much depends on how much money you want to spend and what you plan to do with the programs.
then again.. you could download both and make up your own mind.. ;) |
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01/23/2004 07:28:32 PM · #3 |
| I prefer Photoshop as well. We have both programs at my office. PaintShop Pro was mainly used for it's photo browse feature. Adobe matched this browse feature with the 7.0 release so I'm spending a lot less time in PSP. Maybe it's just that I'm more familiar with Photoshop, but for me, it's easier to use. |
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01/23/2004 07:32:28 PM · #4 |
I agree that photoshop is probably better overall. However, I am trying to switch from photoshop elements to paintshop pro at the moment. PSP v8 has an impressive list of features.
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01/23/2004 07:42:34 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
I agree that photoshop is probably better overall. However, I am trying to switch from photoshop elements to paintshop pro at the moment. PSP v8 has an impressive list of features. |
I take it then that PSP is better then photoshop elements?
There's a huge difference in price between photoshop full version and Paint Shop Pro. I am sure photoshop is better overall (for the difference in price it better be! ;) I was just wondering what features exactly the full version has the Paint shop Pro doesn't and how important those features are to you and your ability to enhance a photograph.
Are they features that are easier to do in Photoshop compared to Paintshop, or are there things you can do in Photoshop to enhance a photo that you simple would not be able to do in Paintshop Pro.
Just wondering if Photoshop is worth the huge difference in price.
I could download both and try it...but I'm sure the learning curve would take way way too long! ; )
Message edited by author 2004-01-23 19:43:39. |
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01/23/2004 07:46:45 PM · #6 |
I would have to say that PSP is better than Elements.
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01/23/2004 07:47:28 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
I agree that photoshop is probably better overall. However, I am trying to switch from photoshop elements to paintshop pro at the moment. PSP v8 has an impressive list of features. |
Doing better then me I am still trying to learn elements!
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01/23/2004 07:55:04 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by tolovemoon:
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
I agree that photoshop is probably better overall. However, I am trying to switch from photoshop elements to paintshop pro at the moment. PSP v8 has an impressive list of features. |
Doing better then me I am still trying to learn elements! |
there is a bit of a learning curve to switch.. lol
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01/23/2004 08:12:58 PM · #9 |
I have both PSP and PS. Photoshop is much better IMO. Only two things I can think of that Photoshop lacks compared to PSP.
1. PSP Browse . If photoshop had a browse integrated, I wouldn't even use PSP. But, I like the ability to browse photos in the same program. Allows you to setup browse thumbs upto 120x120. Nice when comparing BKT photos or similar photos.
2. PSP - Auto Color Balance . Allows you to choose illuminant temperatures(WB) and the percentage to use. 2500k to 9300k.
Of course, I'm still a newbie to photoshop and I have version 6, so who knows if these are availble in a later version of PHotoshop? |
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01/23/2004 08:13:59 PM · #10 |
| I believe that PaintShop Pro has the all of the same photo editing features that Photoshop offers. While I prefer Photoshop, if I had to go out and buy either program myself, I would go with the Paint Shop Pro because of the cost savings. |
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01/23/2004 08:50:31 PM · #11 |
I prefer Photoshop as I have been using it for quite a long time (since version 3.0). I do have Paint Shop Pro and I feel the color correction is better in it than in Photoshop 7.0. I will open shots in PSP to do color correction now, then save and reopen in Photoshop to continue editing. It has a box to check if skin tones are present in the image and it does a great job.
I have not explored doing much more in PSP since I already know and use PS and don't want to learn another program.
JD
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01/23/2004 09:02:42 PM · #12 |
I've been a PSP user since it's shareware days, and I've also used Photoshop at work. I've never run across anything I couldn't do with PSP that I could do with Photoshop. Please be advised, I'm no expert at either.
There are a couple of drawbacks to using PSP, but these are pretty minimal.
1. Photoshop looks better on a resume' (if this is an issue for you).
2. Most tutorials on the web and DPC are geared toward Photoshop users. It's usually not too difficult to figure out how to get the same results with PSP, it just takes a little more thought.
3. The current version of Photoshop allows you to work directly with RAW format files.
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01/23/2004 10:16:11 PM · #13 |
I have them both and I use PSP7 more than I use Photoshop. Photoshop just runs so much slower on my pc than PSP7.
I have no problem finding PSP tutorials for graphics work but I do have more trouble finding them for photo editing.
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01/24/2004 12:46:14 AM · #14 |
I use both Paint Shop Pro and Photoshop.
I find Paint Shop Pro is much more user friendly but does not allow for the "super fine tune" job that Photoshop is capable of. (which I seldom need).
The only advantage to Photoshop over Paint Shop Pro for me is the ability to work with very large files. Paint Shop Pro just won't do it. If I need to merge three 17 Meg files together, Photoshop has no problem doing it. Paint Shop Pro will lock up every time. |
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01/24/2004 01:01:58 AM · #15 |
| photoshop has my vote.. :) |
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01/24/2004 04:13:21 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by byshen:
Just wondering if Photoshop is worth the huge difference in price. |
In my opinion, no. Photoshop just happens to be "industry standard", so you pay big bucks.
Really though, if you get a chance download both and give them a try before you decide. See which one works best on your system, and which one you find to be more intuitive.
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01/24/2004 06:19:27 AM · #17 |
| I work with large files most of the time, up to 35 megs and 4 layers, and don't have a problem with lock up in psp. I have 1 meg of memory, though. So that could be why it doesn't lock up. |
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01/24/2004 09:08:37 AM · #18 |
you mean a GIG of memory i imagine...
Message edited by author 2004-01-24 09:09:15. |
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01/24/2004 09:22:10 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by pcody:
I work with large files most of the time, up to 35 megs and 4 layers, and don't have a problem with lock up in psp. I have 1 meg of memory, though. So that could be why it doesn't lock up. |
Assuming you mean Gig (hee hee), I have a Gig as well. The lock-ups happen when I try to stitch the large files together as a panorama. I can get three together with difficulty, 5 is out of the question. Photoshop will handle it effortlessly, but I prefer using Paint Shop Pro. |
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01/24/2004 04:21:34 PM · #20 |
| I was out to lunch, literally. hehe. Yes, gig. Never really tried anything in psp that would take a lot of math to do. Maybe that's the problem. It's slow sometimes, though, and that's just as bad as locking up, except, I guess, losing your info if it crashes. That would make me think about getting ps. No. I'm just too darn cheap to buy ps. |
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01/24/2004 06:25:54 PM · #21 |
why not try them both for 30 days. Photoshop CS or Elements 2.0 - Paintshop Pro 8.0
From what i can tell, PSP is catered to newbies which is a good thing, PS on the other hand, there is a learning curve, but there are tons of tutorial with PS on the net. Buy the one you're most comfortable with. |
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01/25/2004 09:23:09 AM · #22 |
Thanks for all the info! I really appreciate it!
I was just amazed at how much a photo could be improved after seeing the originals of Chairman of the Board and Final Sunset. I currently have PSP 7 and I was wondering if those pictures were done with photoshop but after hearing all the info you guys gave, I guess it could be done with either PSP or photoshop....I just need to learn how to use PSP better beyond the basics! ;)
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02/13/2004 03:21:12 PM · #23 |
I discuss this in my recent (free) Elements newsletter -- and try not to just take the Elements side (I've used all):
//hiddenelements.com/newsletter.html
Elements gets a little beat up from hear-say. Most of what you can do in Photoshop can be done in Elements. Photoshop is a specialized need. You can work with channels in Elements (my book shows how //aps8.com/hppe.html )and can do many other things said to be Photoshop only (I also just released a Healing tool that I call Mend: //hiddenelements.com/Mend ).
The real key I think (and in short) is learning to use any of these programs to their full potential...dismissing the differences in the interface, testing, and needs/wants when concerned with professional status.
I think there are a lot of other programs waiting in the wings. |
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02/13/2004 03:24:59 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by Olympian:
I have both PSP and PS. Photoshop is much better IMO. Only two things I can think of that Photoshop lacks compared to PSP.
1. PSP Browse . If photoshop had a browse integrated, I wouldn't even use PSP. But, I like the ability to browse photos in the same program. Allows you to setup browse thumbs upto 120x120. Nice when comparing BKT photos or similar photos.
2. PSP - Auto Color Balance . Allows you to choose illuminant temperatures(WB) and the percentage to use. 2500k to 9300k.
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Newer versions of Photoshop have both of these features. |
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02/13/2004 04:13:50 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by Richard Lynch:
I discuss this in my recent (free) Elements newsletter -- and try not to just take the Elements side (I've used all):
//hiddenelements.com/newsletter.html
Elements gets a little beat up from hear-say. Most of what you can do in Photoshop can be done in Elements. Photoshop is a specialized need. You can work with channels in Elements (my book shows how //aps8.com/hppe.html )and can do many other things said to be Photoshop only (I also just released a Healing tool that I call Mend: //hiddenelements.com/Mend ).
The real key I think (and in short) is learning to use any of these programs to their full potential...dismissing the differences in the interface, testing, and needs/wants when concerned with professional status.
I think there are a lot of other programs waiting in the wings. |
OMG, it's the Richard Lynch that does articles for "Digital Photography Techniquesmagazine".
Excellent articles on using Elements to it's potential.Very cool.
Message edited by author 2004-02-13 16:23:12. |
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