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07/15/2007 08:09:20 PM · #1
Looking for an ultra wide for quite some time now..may go for one soon.
Which one should I buy? What is the difference in build quality and output quality if any ?

Thanks in advance,
Abhi
07/15/2007 08:12:22 PM · #2
I only have the Tokina - a great lens - really solidly built and the images I have been able to take are very sharp and clear. You couldn't go wrong with this one.
07/15/2007 08:41:03 PM · #3
Thanks Peter..
The tokina really looks good to me too...is this a lens specific to APS censors or will it work for 35mms too ?
07/15/2007 08:50:34 PM · #4
I was reading a article and it said the sigma is the widest but is not built the best. It said tokina was the best besides the nikon which is twice as much in price.If I can find the srticle I will post it for ya
07/15/2007 08:55:22 PM · #5
it is only for DSLRs - it won't work for 35mm or full frame sensor cameras
07/15/2007 09:03:34 PM · #6
I had the same choice to make and I went with the Tokina and have been very pleased with it!
07/15/2007 09:11:14 PM · #7
Originally posted by bassbone:

it is only for DSLRs - it won't work for 35mm or full frame sensor cameras


d70 is not a full frame and as far as I know nikon doesn't make a full frame as of yet..
07/15/2007 09:16:29 PM · #8
:).. I know D70 is not full frame and Nikon is not going for a full frame DSLR soon.
I was just asking that because my uncle has an old 35mm film camera, and I was just curious.
07/15/2007 09:37:18 PM · #9
I have the Sigma 10-20 and its awesome
07/15/2007 09:57:27 PM · #10
Tokina 12-24 here. It edges out my Nikon 70-200 VR as my favorite lens.
07/15/2007 10:09:29 PM · #11
Originally posted by abhinaba:

Thanks Peter..
The tokina really looks good to me too...is this a lens specific to APS censors or will it work for 35mms too ?


If you need 35mm or full frame coverage, you need to take a look at the Sigma 12-24 i think...
07/15/2007 10:37:38 PM · #12
I'm gonna have to say the tokina 12-24 is a great lens. I very nearly bought one but my friend has the sigma 12-24 which i can borrow easily so I never did.

The Tokina CAN be used on full frame cameras, but you will get a vignette any wider than 15 or 16mm.

The D70 of course is not a full frame camera, but it is more correct to say that Nikon no longer makes full frame digital cameras. They might however bring it back eventually.
07/15/2007 10:41:43 PM · #13
Originally posted by kyebosh:


The D70 of course is not a full frame camera, but it is more correct to say that Nikon no longer makes full frame digital cameras. They might however bring it back eventually.


When did Nikon make a full frame Sensor DSLR???
07/15/2007 10:44:42 PM · #14
Originally posted by kyebosh:

The Tokina CAN be used on full frame cameras, but you will get a vignette any wider than 15 or 16mm.


The Tokina cannot be used on a full frame camera. It will mount to a full frame body, but there will be severe vignetting at all focal lengths. The lens is designed to cast either a 1.5x or 1.6x cropped circle depending on your mount of choice. You will start getting vignetting on a 1.3x body at around 15 or 16mm.
07/15/2007 10:46:37 PM · #15
Thanks everyone..looks like Tokina is the winner here.
I can't go for the Sigma 12-24 though as its 150 dollars more which is out of my budget and I dont really need it to be full frame..just nice to have for my uncle who has an old nikon film SLR :).
None of my other lenses are full frame anyway.
07/15/2007 10:54:53 PM · #16
Originally posted by breadfan35:

Originally posted by kyebosh:


The D70 of course is not a full frame camera, but it is more correct to say that Nikon no longer makes full frame digital cameras. They might however bring it back eventually.


When did Nikon make a full frame Sensor DSLR???

My bad, I may be mistaken. There have been a number of cameras based on nikon camera bodys built with full frame Kodak sensors. They use the nikon AF system and have a nikon mount too. I saw one at my local shop for $1100 just this spring actually.

//www.dpreview.com/reviews/kodakdcs760/

This is one of the various cameras that were produced with FF sensors for nikon. They also have a 14mp one that I know of offhand. You can look through the kodak links on that website's database and find them easily in both the discontinued and non discontinued lists.
07/15/2007 10:55:54 PM · #17
Originally posted by SamDoe1:

Originally posted by kyebosh:

The Tokina CAN be used on full frame cameras, but you will get a vignette any wider than 15 or 16mm.


The Tokina cannot be used on a full frame camera. It will mount to a full frame body, but there will be severe vignetting at all focal lengths. The lens is designed to cast either a 1.5x or 1.6x cropped circle depending on your mount of choice. You will start getting vignetting on a 1.3x body at around 15 or 16mm.

I could have sworn I talked to an owner who said it was fine on his FF camera, maybe he meant a 1.25x sensor like you say. Or maybe i just remembered it wrong! lol.

Message edited by author 2007-07-15 22:56:19.
07/15/2007 11:09:00 PM · #18
I tried the Tokin 12-24 great build great sharpness. I have seen some great captures taken with the Sigma 10-20. I have read the articles and everytime the Tokina wins with the exception of buying Nikon Glass. But for me going ultra wide without going fisheye means getting the Sigma 10-20. Good luck though its so popular is backordered. I have been waiting for months for the sigma. Both at my local shop and online.
P.S. Rumors are that Nikon Full frame will come out sooner than later, but thats whats trading is all about. You can always trade up.
07/16/2007 02:37:50 AM · #19
both lenses are availiable at b&h. where are you looking for the sigma online?
07/16/2007 03:07:37 AM · #20
Another vote for the excellent Sigma 10-20.
07/16/2007 06:13:53 AM · #21
I have no experience using either, but I plan to get the Sigma 10-20 myself.
07/16/2007 09:00:41 AM · #22
No complaints on the Sigma.
Paired with DXO distortion correction it rocks!
07/16/2007 10:15:13 AM · #23
Love my sigma 10-20. And the extra 2mm over the Tonika makes quite a difference.
Sigma at 10mm
Tokina at 12mm
07/16/2007 10:41:25 AM · #24
Keep on pouring your opinions. I am on the point to buy the Tokina that was recommended by all my friends (though for the Canon) but I still keep an eye on the Sigma.

Message edited by author 2007-07-16 10:41:33.
07/16/2007 10:47:17 AM · #25
Man, now I am more confused than I was in the beginning..
Looks like Tokina wins on aspects like o/p quality (not by much though), but Sigma has the edge for that 2 mm.Any other reasons to prefer it over Tokina?
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