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06/14/2007 03:41:44 PM · #1
My freind asked me to do a full body shot and a headshot for her a modeling audition. She ended up not being old enough to go by herself and her mom refused to take her, but I have a feeling this is a type of request I am going to get often if I actually go into the business of photography and I was wondering how yall thought this turned out.
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Any ideas/examples of alternative settings or poses?

Thanks!
06/14/2007 03:44:28 PM · #2
I don't know what modeling agencies look for, or what type of modeling she plans to do, but the two potential problems I notice are that it's hard to tell whether she has a good body or not, and her face seems to be de-emphasized. So I think it's a good photo for a photographer but maybe not for a model.
06/14/2007 03:46:05 PM · #3
It's a bit "over-processed" for what most would want for a model portfolio. Pose is ok.

Edit: BTW, I hate the word over-processed. But, sometimes, it is appropriate.

Message edited by author 2007-06-14 15:46:48.
06/14/2007 03:46:16 PM · #4
I think part of that is personally I dont think she has that great of a body for modeling but I was trying to make it look like she does. Should I just try harder to show this is what you got to work with it if you like it then good if not then don't? I was thinking that since it was paired with a headshot they could see her face there, but i guess it should be somewhat of a focal point in the full body too?
06/14/2007 03:54:12 PM · #5
Let me make myself more clear. It's a nice pic, but...

The skin smoothing and enhanced contrast make it less acceptable for what she needs it for. I'm not saying it's undesirable, but could be more desirable.
06/14/2007 03:57:07 PM · #6
I don't see much wrong with her body ...
06/14/2007 04:00:59 PM · #7
She doesn't have very strong curves but from the slight twist and her body it elongates her. Here is the original
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I cloned out a stick thing that was in front of her hair
What should I do next time that would be better for what she needs it for?

Message edited by author 2007-06-14 16:02:58.
06/14/2007 04:01:47 PM · #8
take a look at agency websites and see the kind of images they look for. I'm thinking more clear and crisp and fresh and as has been said, less prosessing and more emphasis on the face.

06/14/2007 04:14:18 PM · #9
She's pretty and her skin is very smooth. I think she has a nice build for modeling. My two cents...She looks uncomfortable and unsure of herself. She looks to me like she's hiding her body some. Her outfit in a darker color maybe...or a bright color to say... "look at me!!" Eye contact, maybe. More confidence, maybe...less clutter around her. I am no photo expert, but I did some modeling as a child.
06/14/2007 04:16:18 PM · #10
awesome! thanks for the tips
06/14/2007 04:18:42 PM · #11
I agree with the other tips ... and the clutter has to go for sure IMO ...
06/14/2007 04:19:59 PM · #12
Originally posted by Greetmir:

and the clutter has to go for sure IMO ...


It is a bit busy. Some of it gives context though.
06/14/2007 04:24:51 PM · #13
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by Greetmir:

and the clutter has to go for sure IMO ...


It is a bit busy. Some of it gives context though.


Context to what?
06/14/2007 04:31:08 PM · #14
Originally posted by jmsetzler:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by Greetmir:

and the clutter has to go for sure IMO ...


It is a bit busy. Some of it gives context though.


Context to what?


The garden scene.
06/14/2007 04:35:49 PM · #15
The first thing I'd say is the possibility of her body length being elongated by your lens angle. Depending upon your focal length, the wider angle has a tendency of distorting things. Though it may be a cool effect for editorial, it may not be an appropriate photo for a newbie to go to a "Go see". I'd suggest a representation which is a bit more literal focusing moreso upon the models attributes rather than the photographers creative angle....... until she builds her portfolio. I speak through experience as I used to be a male "coat hanger" for many years and encountered this when signing up with various agencies. They all said the same thing ..... "let's see YOU and leave the "trick photography" up to the client. Most clients and/or agents will want to see the honest goods so they can decide whether they can work with the model. I hope you get my point and do not misconstrue this observation as a harsh criticism.
06/14/2007 04:37:32 PM · #16
Originally posted by Ivo:

I used to be a male "coat hanger" for many years and encountered this when signing up with various agencies.


Really? *sorry to hijack* that's kinda cool :-)
06/14/2007 04:38:48 PM · #17
Her legs dont look very good there, she does look tall but unproportionate (I think its just the angle).
Im no pro but here are some tips that work for me:

1. Lighting is the most important thing, the model needs to demand attention and light helps doing that. Reflectors work are a great way to do this if you dont have all the professional equipment.Window light can also have great effects, specially in closeups.
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2. Shoot a little bit under eye level to make her taller but also bringing more emphasis on her face. This also makes the legs look better.
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3. Backgrounds that are less busy or blured are good because they help keep the attention on the model.
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My examples arent perfect at all, but I think it could help a little?

Edit: another thing to think about is if the model wants to be a commercial model or high fashion model, there is a big difference between those two categories.

Message edited by author 2007-06-14 16:40:57.
06/14/2007 04:56:11 PM · #18
Here is a super fast edit, hope you dont mind.

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Shadow/highlight- bring light to the face
Dodge and Burn
Little sharpening and cloning out "bags" under eyes
06/14/2007 04:56:39 PM · #19
Thanks for the tips everyone, anyone have any comments on this photo 491662.jpg its more commanding but it's been in my portfolio forever and hasn't had any comments so I don't know if that's a more powerful direction when it comes to modeling shots.
06/14/2007 05:05:09 PM · #20
Most agencies want to see 3 basic images from what I hear.

- Headshot, a close-up portrait, face filling the frame of the photo.
- Three quarters, from the waist up
- Full body shot in form fitting clothes. (Basically what you have here)

Little or no make up. Simple hair style. No smile in at least two out of three pictures.
06/14/2007 05:07:43 PM · #21
keep the shots simple and uncluttered :)
06/14/2007 05:11:57 PM · #22
Out of curiosity, why "no smile"?
06/14/2007 05:14:29 PM · #23
Originally posted by ursula:

Out of curiosity, why "no smile"?


Easier to assess facial structure. Most editorial and runway work is "smileless" anyhow.

This world is far too serious as it is. I figure youth is the time to smile as we tend to find more reasons not to when we get older. ;-)
06/14/2007 05:17:33 PM · #24
Originally posted by Ivo:

Originally posted by ursula:

Out of curiosity, why "no smile"?


Easier to assess facial structure. Most editorial and runway work is "smileless" anyhow.

This world is far too serious as it is. I figure youth is the time to smile as we tend to find more reasons not to when we get older. ;-)


Thanks! :)
06/14/2007 05:49:57 PM · #25
I think someone her age could get away with smiling a bit. But yeah, most model photography is smileless.
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