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 05/08/2007 10:02:28 PM · #126
Originally posted by PhantomEWO:
Why not have two site watermarks that the photog selects which one when the photo is uploaded. It could be generated by DPC, every photo would have same size, style and color of watermark. The only photog choice would be bottom left or bottom right. Watermark would be generic "DPC submission" or something standard as decided by SC (not member's, too many suggestions and nothing would get accomplished). This way all photos would look the same with a small by visible mark.

If DPC was to go with watermarking images (which I support BTW), I think watermarks should be an option in the user 'My Preferences' area so those that are opposed can leave it turned off. For those that want it the watermark would be automatically put in place on upload (with one exception). The exception is challenge entries - for those I think the watermark should be applied at rollover when voting is complete.

None of this is extremely difficult to implement, especially not for Langdon I wouldn't think.
 05/08/2007 10:25:31 PM · #127
Personally I think that a good capture is a good capture regardless. But that is just my opinion. A special challenge with images scaled to variable formats could settle this issue. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
 05/08/2007 10:58:50 PM · #128
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by neophyte:

My web designer tells me there's a way to watermark photos that will only show if they're removed from the site.... Worth looking into.


No offense to you, but your web designer is full of BS.


The only thing i can think of is when their printed but thats a different story.
 05/08/2007 11:20:45 PM · #129
720&200K
 05/08/2007 11:24:50 PM · #130
Originally posted by jparisi:
Personally I think that a good capture is a good capture regardless. But that is just my opinion. A special challenge with images scaled to variable formats could settle this issue. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?


We have those once in awhile already but if were gonna have it 1 or 2 out of every 10 challenges then whats the real problem. EIther do or dont.

Id vote for 720x because even my 14 inch NEC from 1994 could support 1280x1024. But i know my grandparents wouldnt go over 1024x768 anyways.

However most of my images are 158-175 K at 640x so id vote for say 640x@200K!
 05/08/2007 11:35:23 PM · #131
Originally posted by RainMotorsports:
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by neophyte:

My web designer tells me there's a way to watermark photos that will only show if they're removed from the site.... Worth looking into.


No offense to you, but your web designer is full of BS.


The only thing i can think of is when their printed but thats a different story.


Digimarc can track images across the web with digital watermarking, but I've read it's not bulletproof and can be defeated. But, it's probably the best line of defense to date, it's just expensive.
 05/08/2007 11:47:00 PM · #132
I wouldn't mind the larger image size as long as there was a DPC watermark on the image. Otherwise, I will keep it the same size as now.

05/08/2007 11:53:04 PM · #133
Originally posted by RainMotorsports:
... most of my images are 158-175 K at 640x so id vote for say 640x@200K!

I'd go for that also.
 05/08/2007 11:54:14 PM · #134
Originally posted by Tlemetry:
I wouldn't mind the larger image size as long as there was a DPC watermark on the image. Otherwise, I will keep it the same size as now.


you can still submit a 640x640 entry even if the site allows 720x720.
 05/08/2007 11:56:45 PM · #135
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Digimarc can track images across the web with digital watermarking, but I've read it's not bulletproof and can be defeated. But, it's probably the best line of defense to date, it's just expensive.

How expensive is it? I was just reading about embedding digital watermarks and the instructions I have (PSP X) direct the user to Digimarc for registration and creating your ID number.
 05/08/2007 11:57:08 PM · #136
Originally posted by crayon:
Originally posted by Tlemetry:
I wouldn't mind the larger image size as long as there was a DPC watermark on the image. Otherwise, I will keep it the same size as now.


you can still submit a 640x640 entry even if the site allows 720x720.


Oh crayon but their so afraid, their so afraid of getting voted down..... I love this place get over yourselves people. Fix one thing and their afraid of another.... oh wait thats humanity okay my bad lol.
 05/08/2007 11:57:39 PM · #137
Originally posted by crayon:
Originally posted by Tlemetry:
I wouldn't mind the larger image size as long as there was a DPC watermark on the image. Otherwise, I will keep it the same size as now.

you can still submit a 640x640 entry even if the site allows 720x720.

...and pay the price getting dinged with lower votes. Keep it 640 for all and the playing field stays even.
 05/08/2007 11:58:11 PM · #138
Originally posted by RainMotorsports:
Oh crayon but their so afraid, their so afraid of getting voted down.....

:P
 05/08/2007 11:58:41 PM · #139
HAHAHAHA glad2badad look up one post u just solid proved my point ROFLMAO... HAHA people are so predictable i love it.

EDIT - u noticed

Message edited by author 2007-05-08 23:59:16.
 05/09/2007 12:21:32 AM · #140
Originally posted by RainMotorsports:
Originally posted by jparisi:
Personally I think that a good capture is a good capture regardless. But that is just my opinion. A special challenge with images scaled to variable formats could settle this issue. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?


We have those once in awhile already but if were gonna have it 1 or 2 out of every 10 challenges then whats the real problem. EIther do or dont.

Id vote for 720x because even my 14 inch NEC from 1994 could support 1280x1024. But i know my grandparents wouldnt go over 1024x768 anyways.

However most of my images are 158-175 K at 640x so id vote for say 640x@200K!


What I envision is more of an experiment with variables and controls rather than an actual challenge. Does image size impact the avg. vote?
 05/09/2007 12:23:44 AM · #141
Its okay while the 14 inch NEC (circa 1994) supported 1280x1024 as its max resolution it came out in a time when windows 3.1 was still on the shelf it got most of its use @ 640x480 to 800x600. 1024x768 when i got it.

It ran 1152x864 cool but pushing her to 1280x1024 required a pair of cooling fans lol.

JP... whatever ur name is - It wont make a bad image any better infact some will be worse. But it does give a good image that zing for me. A 10 is a 10 for me and a 9 is a 9.... it might make a 2% impact on my voting.

Message edited by author 2007-05-09 00:26:06.
 05/09/2007 12:27:16 AM · #142


Id vote for 720x because even my 14 inch NEC from 1994 could support 1280x1024.

However most of my images are 158-175 K at 640x so id vote for say 640x@200K! [/quote]

So which is it? 720 or 640?

But i know my grandparents wouldnt go over 1024x768 anyways. ????
 05/09/2007 12:36:45 AM · #143
Originally posted by jparisi:
Originally posted by jparisi:
Id vote for 720x because even my 14 inch NEC from 1994 could support 1280x1024.

However most of my images are 158-175 K at 640x so id vote for say 640x@200K!


So which is it? 720 or 640?

But i know my grandparents wouldnt go over 1024x768 anyways. ????


On the last part - Many people leave the computer at the res it came out of the box. AFter installing XP it typically resizes to 800x600 or 1024x768. It depends on the video card and monitor.

Half of these people typically dont know how to change it or dont even know they already know how. The other half dont want to the text is hard to see they dont like it.

Im all for raising the Limit on size to 200K id almost NEVER (say 1 out of 10 images) need it to be more (in the case of saving at 100% quality) on 640x480 however the majority fof the time its a stretch (5 out of 10 images have to goto 75% half of these images u cant really tell) 2 or 3 others tend to go quietly at 90% it depends on how complex the image is.

The Jpeg Compression test posted time and time again is one image and its the right image to use to push the results in favor of more compression isnt that bad. But Images that are high in contrast borders get soft and speckly. It cant be seen in dog hair and grass.

I clearly demarcated the difference in my votes one is for the poll and question at hand and the other is completly unrelated believe it or not. File size is not at hand right now.

ANyways off to shower if ur looking for a drawn out argument until the SC emails me to shut up. Then your on if not then move on to the next guy. Everyone will vote for me to shut it lol.

Message edited by author 2007-05-09 00:39:57.
 05/09/2007 12:40:18 AM · #144
Originally posted by RainMotorsports:
Its okay while the 14 inch NEC (circa 1994) supported 1280x1024 as its max resolution it came out in a time when windows 3.1 was still on the shelf it got most of its use @ 640x480 to 800x600. 1024x768 when i got it.

It ran 1152x864 cool but pushing her to 1280x1024 required a pair of cooling fans lol.

JP... whatever ur name is - It wont make a bad image any better infact some will be worse. But it does give a good image that zing for me. A 10 is a 10 for me and a 9 is a 9.... it might make a 2% impact on my voting.


I agree---probably not much impact on voting. Thats why I don't see the need.
 05/09/2007 12:40:58 AM · #145
Originally posted by jparisi:
Originally posted by RainMotorsports:
Its okay while the 14 inch NEC (circa 1994) supported 1280x1024 as its max resolution it came out in a time when windows 3.1 was still on the shelf it got most of its use @ 640x480 to 800x600. 1024x768 when i got it.

It ran 1152x864 cool but pushing her to 1280x1024 required a pair of cooling fans lol.

JP... whatever ur name is - It wont make a bad image any better infact some will be worse. But it does give a good image that zing for me. A 10 is a 10 for me and a 9 is a 9.... it might make a 2% impact on my voting.


I agree---probably not much impact on voting. Thats why I don't see the need.


We can both agree on that part of it!
 05/09/2007 01:10:26 AM · #146
I voted 800 x 800

I wouldn't use the full 800 all the time, but I'd sure enter a lot more free-study and panoramas.

Just because you have the 800 available to you, doesn't mean you need to use it for every challenge. In fact, I would rarely go over the 640 height. But having the option to use it when I want to, is all I want.

Give me the full 800. Let me decide when to use it.
(I hope it’s ok to rally for votes here).

800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800 800
 05/09/2007 01:34:06 AM · #147
just to stir things up a bit, how about members are only allowed to submit a certain amount of pixels instead? this way we can have lovely panoramas that stretches 2 screens and skyscraper shots that scrolls down 3 screens? :P
518'400 pixels max ~ up to 200kb.
minimum of 100 pixel on either side?

(before anyone kick me the usual way, this is a joke)

Message edited by author 2007-05-09 01:35:36.
 05/09/2007 01:50:10 AM · #148
Just woken up and cant believe this thread is still going AND there is a poll on the front page.

However the fact that it has become the "RainMotorSports Show" doesnt come as much of a surprise.

Message edited by author 2007-05-09 01:53:01.
 05/09/2007 06:18:50 AM · #149
I would vote for leave it at 640. This is big enough to see the images, and all images are on the same footing, so everyone is treated equally. Perhaps an extra rule can be made for panoramas, that you can go up to 800, provided the total width plus height < 1000.

I have fast broadband, and it is already slow enough to vote on challenges. Increasing the image size would only make voting slower. We already have people voting from the thumbnails for this reason. Why make it worse? I don't want to use my entire monthly quota voting on one challenge!

edit for panoramas...

Message edited by author 2007-05-09 06:25:54.
 05/09/2007 07:12:39 AM · #150
As I see it the only thing which is of any concern for DPC itself is the file size since this is what must be stored and then transferred when people look at the images.

So how about abandoning pixel size limits and just limiting the file size? If you submit a photo so big that people have to scroll to see it all then you will probably lose votes as a result, so it should be self regulating to an extent.

With that rule in place I'd certainly have chanced entering my (square panel) Triptych at 940x320 rather than 700x240 - a size which I'm pretty sure most people would be able to see yet would not be legal under either of the sizes proposed.

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