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12/01/2003 07:58:29 AM · #1 |
I just checked my score and my comments and I really am upset. I have set out a few challenges lately cause I wasn't all that inspired. This challenge I was. I knew of several different soft focus effects and thanks to a posting in the forum I chose not to use the pantyhose technique. So some of the other things I could do were, a frozen filter, a fogged filter, a soft focus filter, plastic over the filter, vasoline over the filter.
Well I played with all those different effects and went with a fogged filter and my sharpening on the camera set at a -1. Well voters around here seem to think a fogged filter was over blurring in my editing.
I saw a few other entries that look like fogged filters and I am wondering if they are being as misinterupted as I am.
Message edited by author 2003-12-01 08:11:50. |
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12/01/2003 08:18:13 AM · #2 |
I just finished voting and was surprised at the amount of great photos this time. There are a good bit of 3 to 5 range photos IMHO but there are a lot of good photos as well.
You can never really know how the voters will go. I had to learn to be tough and not base my worth on voters. If you like the photo then that's what it's all about. I do listen to photographers I admire and trust. Also, voting has just started...maybe it will turn around.
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12/01/2003 08:24:35 AM · #3 |
I haven't scored yet, but your image does seem very very soft which has taken some of the color out.
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12/01/2003 08:44:24 AM · #4 |
I tried to be careful with the blurring after reading a few post in the forums stating that soft focus does not mean out of focus. I was afraid the voters would misunderstand and vote lower if they thought it was out of focus. I was even considering entering one that was taken at f22.
Good luck with your picture. |
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12/01/2003 09:21:15 AM · #5 |
I tried the vaseline approach, and then went with the nylon approach, which I found after some experiment had some interesting effects. I also downloaded a soft-focus PS plugin from the web, just to experiment with what nylon shot really simulated a soft focus look before doing my final shots.
Here's one of my preliminaries that I didn't use, simply because I thought one of the reasons I liked it most was just that it was my child. But I am curious what others think and how it might have fared!
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12/01/2003 09:29:54 AM · #6 |
| Just as a matter of curiosity, I thought the challenges were supposed to be anonymous. In several threads of late and below (Jon Pink) there is direct referemnce to knowing which image belongs to which photographer. Is this O.K.?? |
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12/01/2003 09:59:19 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by amsmyth:
Just as a matter of curiosity, I thought the challenges were supposed to be anonymous. In several threads of late and below (Jon Pink) there is direct referemnce to knowing which image belongs to which photographer. Is this O.K.?? |
No...it's notok. That part of the post should wait until after voting is complete. This is where the forum mods need to step in.
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12/01/2003 10:02:46 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Shiiizzzam:
Originally posted by amsmyth:
Just as a matter of curiosity, I thought the challenges were supposed to be anonymous. In several threads of late and below (Jon Pink) there is direct referemnce to knowing which image belongs to which photographer. Is this O.K.?? |
No...it's notok. That part of the post should wait until after voting is complete. This is where the forum mods need to step in. |
Err, well the person whom started this thread wants to talk about her image...her choice isn't it? And did anyone say which photo it is? No.
And I quoted you, na na na na ;)
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12/01/2003 10:12:28 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by jonpink:
Originally posted by Shiiizzzam:
Originally posted by amsmyth:
Just as a matter of curiosity, I thought the challenges were supposed to be anonymous. In several threads of late and below (Jon Pink) there is direct referemnce to knowing which image belongs to which photographer. Is this O.K.?? |
No...it's notok. That part of the post should wait until after voting is complete. This is where the forum mods need to step in. |
Err, well the person whom started this thread wants to talk about her image...her choice isn't it? And did anyone say which photo it is? No.
And I quoted you, na na na na ;) |
It's fine to talk about your image...just not to point out the image and make it known. I'm not talking about her post. I was answering a question about is it ok to let it be known which image :)
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12/01/2003 10:21:19 AM · #10 |
| From what I've received it's either love it or hate it. My shot is not out of focus but the argument could be made that it does appear that way. Strange challenge but it was a learning experience. Forever humbled. |
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12/01/2003 10:24:03 AM · #11 |
I think the best images in this challenge used the soft focus to enhance the image and would be not as good without it. Many of the others look like the soft focus was just thrown at the image to make it fit the challenge and would probably be improved by removing it.
It would be interesting to see how many used PS to attempt a soft focus look and how many used something on the lens.
For the record, I used a crumpled bit of cellophane from a CD my wife bought and rubberbanded it over the lens. I tried 2 layers, but the effect was too much, so I stuck with 1 layer. My wife was a bit annoyed that I was far more interested in the wrapper than in her new CD. Oh well...
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12/01/2003 10:25:34 AM · #12 |
| In theory, it should be anonymous. However, when a person uses a subject that can easily be attributed to a photographer by the voters, the anonymity goes away. Such is the case here. |
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12/01/2003 10:28:07 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by Trinch:
In theory, it should be anonymous. However, when a person uses a subject that can easily be attributed to a photographer by the voters, the anonymity goes away. Such is the case here. |
Very neatly put.
Ed
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12/01/2003 10:30:25 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by OneSweetSin:
I just checked my score and my comments and I really am upset. I have set out a few challenges lately cause I wasn't all that inspired. This challenge I was. I knew of several different soft focus effects and thanks to a posting in the forum I chose not to use the pantyhose technique. So some of the other things I could do were, a frozen filter, a fogged filter, a soft focus filter, plastic over the filter, vasoline over the filter.
Well I played with all those different effects and went with a fogged filter and my sharpening on the camera set at a -1. Well voters around here seem to think a fogged filter was over blurring in my editing.
I saw a few other entries that look like fogged filters and I am wondering if they are being as misinterupted as I am. |
I actually scored your image fairly high - I really liked the effect you achieved. |
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12/01/2003 10:40:38 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by OneSweetSin:
I just checked my score and my comments and I really am upset.
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I saw a few other entries that look like fogged filters and I am wondering if they are being as misinterupted as I am. |
Ok, I see it's easy to figure out which is yours, so I'll answer your question from my own perspective. I don't know what you are expecting from a score, but to me this isn't one of the top photos. I think you have a decent soft focus effect, but perhaps the colors are what are throwing off your score. Did you desaturate on purpose? I personally think soft focus shots look better "warm", like the one I posted of my son below.
Just my opinion of course. |
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12/01/2003 10:56:01 AM · #16 |
I'm sorry One Sweet Sin (nothing personal) but this thread kind of annoys me.
Yes it is quite obvious which is your photo.
I don't think this discussion should be taking place until after the challenge is over.
The photos should all be looked at equally, no attention DURING the challenge should be swayed towards one photo.
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12/01/2003 12:20:18 PM · #17 |
| NSHAPIRO- I love the photo of your son. It looks really neat and is definitely soft focus. It has a nice tone to it and is very nice. |
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12/01/2003 12:58:21 PM · #18 |
| I agree, I think that all photos should be seen as equal and I have a feeling alot of "friends" share photos to score each other better.. I mean I look at all the photos in the challenge as equal, come to this thread to find out that others know who's photo is who.. how fair is that to the others that work hard to put their photos in the challenge? I agree with the people above.. this should be talked about after the challenge is over. |
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12/01/2003 05:54:26 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by jonpink:
Originally posted by Shiiizzzam:
Originally posted by amsmyth:
Just as a matter of curiosity, I thought the challenges were supposed to be anonymous. In several threads of late and below (Jon Pink) there is direct referemnce to knowing which image belongs to which photographer. Is this O.K.?? |
No...it's notok. That part of the post should wait until after voting is complete. This is where the forum mods need to step in. |
Err, well the person whom started this thread wants to talk about her image...her choice isn't it? And did anyone say which photo it is? No.
And I quoted you, na na na na ;) |
Nope I didn't point out the photo and also anyone who knows anything at all about my work would instantly know it.
Message edited by author 2003-12-01 18:34:34. |
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12/01/2003 06:24:15 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by FullyFocused:
I agree, I think that all photos should be seen as equal and I have a feeling alot of "friends" share photos to score each other better.. I mean I look at all the photos in the challenge as equal, come to this thread to find out that others know who's photo is who.. how fair is that to the others that work hard to put their photos in the challenge? I agree with the people above.. this should be talked about after the challenge is over. |
I'm sure there are pockets of people that might share to boost their score, but I'm not sure it would help a whole lot, unless it was a large pocket. Also, it is possible to know which pic belongs to a certain person simply because of the subject. For example, I recognize sonifo's and carsten's kids. I figured that is what happened with the start of this thread. No specific pictures were identified here. |
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12/01/2003 08:02:07 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by One Sweet Sintext: Nope I didn't point out the photo and also anyone who knows anything at all about my work would instantly know it.
I will have to plead guilty to not "knowing anything at all about your work" I guess, as I did not and do not know which image you have entered. I can at this point hazard a guess but that is not the way I understood these challenges to be run. It has been a consistent theme in these forum threads to talk about images that are presently being voted upon and I will defend my right to think it inappropriate. |
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12/02/2003 12:52:39 AM · #22 |
[quote=Spazmo99]I think the best images in this challenge used the soft focus to enhance the image and would be not as good without it. Many of the others look like the soft focus was just thrown at the image to make it fit the challenge and would probably be improved by removing it.
It would be interesting to see how many used PS to attempt a soft focus look and how many used something on the lens.
/quote]
..........never mind. |
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12/03/2003 06:27:55 PM · #23 |
| Just curious - has anyone else noticed a lack of comments on the Soft Focus category? I liked my picture for this one better than any other I've entered (but it's only my third challenge) but I am getting zero comments. I've had 98 votes cast, but not one comment. Is this unusual? |
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12/03/2003 06:29:27 PM · #24 |
If your score is between 4.8 and 5.5 or so, it's not unusual.
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12/03/2003 06:31:46 PM · #25 |
| Gotcha! Guess that means I'm moving up from blah to mediocre, LOL! Not bad for my third try I guess - I'll keep working at it! |
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