Motion Panning II - DPChallenge Forums

01/10/2007 05:55:13 PM · #1

A quick look and I didn't see another Motion Panning II thread.

My Q is do peeps think motion panning has to be left to right (or r2l) or can it be a forwards or backwards motion shot? ie, rather than zooming the cam is propelled forwards or backwards.

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.4G

01/10/2007 05:58:46 PM · #2

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

My understanding is that zooming (either with a lens or by physically moving to/from a subject) is not the same as motion panning. But it doesn't have to be only side to side, you could pan in any direction you want.

I don't know if this is right, but to me, with panning you essentially keep the same distance from the subject (while moving and keeping the subject in focus, which gives you all those beautiful lines and patterns in front and background). Zooming on the other hand is similar in that it gives you the same out of focus made lines, but the subject is not kept at the same distance - the essence of zooming is changing the distance to the subject.

Tim

Nikon D300

01/10/2007 06:08:51 PM · #3

motion panning

Message edited by author 2007-01-10 18:09:14.

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8G IF-ED

01/10/2007 06:15:20 PM · #4

thanks for the replies, however, am still confused, for motion panning does the camera have to stay in the same location and maybe move left to right or up and down. Lets say the camera moved backwards keeping the subject in focus (think about it) is that not motion panning?

Cutter

Nikon D700

01/10/2007 06:19:29 PM · #5

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

I hear ya and good luck. But when I hear "panning" 9 times out of 10 it is left/right. The other 1/10th of the time it is up/down.

boysetsfire

Canon EOS-5D

01/10/2007 06:20:17 PM · #6

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Ecce I agree with you here I would say it would suit the challenge and it would also be challenging and effective to try and get a good shot like that. hmmm

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM

01/10/2007 06:20:42 PM · #7

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

So you're saying, would it be motion panning if the subject and the camera were to move in the same direction (back or forward rather than sideways or up/down) at more or less the same speed? Interesting. Never thought of it that way.

I don't know the answer.

I think, in film, they put cameras on sort of tracks, and then they run the camera alongside the subject (lets say a horserider going across a field or something like that). I think that's called panning also, but in this case it would be again sideways, yet the camera would not be in the same location - it would move along.

Interesting stuff.

Message edited by author 2007-01-10 18:22:22.

Falc

Canon EOS-1D Mark III

01/10/2007 06:22:00 PM · #8

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

I think the word 'panning' is the key here. Most people will interpret that as a left to right ot right to left motion. A pan/tilt tripod head allows you to rotate about a fixed point not a moving point.

You can always try it and see what the voters think ;-)

bobdaveant

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

01/10/2007 06:26:44 PM · #9

I was so excited with the first motion panning challenge that we did a while ago, and I did rather well (9th place) overall, at least for me, but was so bummed on the number of ones I was voted on ,(9). I had a few people send me private messages believing that I didnt pan my shot, but instead, ride next to the vehicle that I took the photo of and get my shot. I hope this doesnt happen again to anyone, good luck to all in the challenge. I think Ill pick a different subject this time.

01/10/2007 06:28:01 PM · #10

n photography, panning is a technique used to suggest fast motion and bring out foreground from background. Use this panning technique to create your submission.

Have not clicked for a while, might just go with my idea and to heck with the anal voters ;) I have two ideas, the first would test peeps idea of panning and the second would fit it but be a 'cheat' Roll on a dry weekend.

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM

01/10/2007 06:30:18 PM · #11

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Just go out and make a good image, and forget about testing peeps or cheat or whatever. :)

talj

Canon EOS-40D

01/10/2007 06:31:24 PM · #12

Originally posted by ursula:

Just go out and make a good image :)

If you can do that I'll be impressed :-P

Sorry folks but someone had to say it ;o)

Edit to add: that was meant for Andi not you Ursula ;o)

Message edited by author 2007-01-10 18:36:47.

01/10/2007 06:38:18 PM · #13

Originally posted by talj:

Originally posted by ursula:

Just go out and make a good image :)

If you can do that I'll be impressed :-P

Hey, I resemble that remark!

01/10/2007 06:40:54 PM · #14

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Originally posted by talj:

Originally posted by ursula:

Just go out and make a good image :)

If you can do that I'll be impressed :-P

Hey, I resemble that remark!

resemble? ;)

01/10/2007 06:46:29 PM · #15

Originally posted by ursula:

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Originally posted by talj:

Originally posted by ursula:

Just go out and make a good image :)

If you can do that I'll be impressed :-P

Hey, I resemble that remark!

resemble? ;)

doh, I hate it when one has to explain a bit of humour. Most peeps would 'resent' a derogotory comment but one that is prepared to face the ridicule would admit to being unable to match the statement and oft turn the tables.

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM

01/10/2007 06:48:34 PM · #16

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Originally posted by ursula:

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Originally posted by talj:

Originally posted by ursula:

Just go out and make a good image :)

If you can do that I'll be impressed :-P

Hey, I resemble that remark!

resemble? ;)

doh, I hate it when one has to explain a bit of humour. Most peeps would 'resent' a derogotory comment but one that is prepared to face the ridicule would admit to being unable to match the statement and oft turn the tables.

Wow. Went right over my head :)

talj

Canon EOS-40D

01/10/2007 06:49:35 PM · #17

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

So basically, Andi knows taking a good image will be tough for him so he was agreeing with me :o)

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

01/10/2007 06:51:56 PM · #18

so, getting back on topic, does anybody have anything helpfull to add?

John Pahl

Nikon Coolpix AW 100

01/10/2007 07:15:00 PM · #19

Originally posted by dr_timbo:

motion panning

Seems like the voting is crazy on some of them.
I can see the motion panning on the top ten, but as I keep looking back to top 20-30 there are photos that make me wonder. Were is the motion panning? Some just look out of focus.

Not to say I can do any better, just trying to learn what the voters are looking for.

I did not look at all of them yet.
The top 10 are really great.

deblur

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM

01/10/2007 07:19:59 PM · #20

Originally posted by ursula:

I think, in film, they put cameras on sort of tracks, and then they run the camera alongside the subject (lets say a horserider going across a field or something like that). I think that's called panning also, but in this case it would be again sideways, yet the camera would not be in the same location - it would move along.

Interesting stuff.

This is known in film as "dollying" - you know the "dolly grip" is the guy who moves the dolly along the tracks...

Panning is very much a horizontal rotation about a fixed point, usually on a tripod. Vertical panning is usually called a "tilt", although I guess in photography that could be confused with a tilt in T&S lenses!

actually there are various other movements such as trucking, rolling, pedastalling, arcing... look em up :)

01/10/2007 07:29:12 PM · #21

Originally posted by deblur:

Originally posted by ursula:

I think, in film, they put cameras on sort of tracks, and then they run the camera alongside the subject (lets say a horserider going across a field or something like that). I think that's called panning also, but in this case it would be again sideways, yet the camera would not be in the same location - it would move along.

Interesting stuff.

This is known in film as "dollying" - you know the "dolly grip" is the guy who moves the dolly along the tracks...

Panning is very much a horizontal rotation about a fixed point, usually on a tripod. Vertical panning is usually called a "tilt", although I guess in photography that could be confused with a tilt in T&S lenses!

actually there are various other movements such as trucking, rolling, pedastalling, arcing... look em up :)

Ah, thank you! I didn't know that. I will look them up :)

01/10/2007 07:29:48 PM · #22

Originally posted by deblur:

Panning is very much a horizontal rotation about a fixed point, usually on a tripod.

Am guessing most peeps think this as well so will go for another idea I had, it may well be voted down by peeps but at least I'll know it was a true representation on panning ;)

Beetle