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09/03/2006 03:50:11 AM · #1 |
Has anyone else ever ran across having issues with NeatImage colors after application? My neatimage and photoshop images are not wanting to display each other very nicely.
If I bring a shot over from photoshop it looks pretty bad in neatimage, then once I filter it and apply/save to make it look good in Neat Image, it looks horrid in Photoshop. Example would be saving it in 256 color where you can see all the "color blend lines" instead of actually blending smoothly. This not only looks like this in Photoshop, but also windows picture viewer. But in NeatImage it looks great.
I've never had this problem with the software in the past. Its worked flawess until now. I guess I'll skip neat image this time, make some people happy anyhow. ;) |
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09/03/2006 05:26:18 AM · #2 |
At what stage in your workflow are you applying NI?
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09/03/2006 05:30:08 AM · #3 |
I don't like neat image, its way too soft even with te colors. And it flattens the image. I use Noiseware pro, it doesn't smoothen the image too much and you have lots of options for noise controle. And allways use it at the end of processing.
Message edited by author 2006-09-03 05:30:40.
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09/03/2006 08:43:59 AM · #4 |
I have tried the free version of neat image and still use it on occasion. But there are a few things I have noticed:
Even a mostly noise-free picture shows up with a lot noise in neatimage. I think they do something to the image when its imported to make it look worse than it actually is.
The larger I import the image, the better the end results after resizing again in photoshop.
Importing TIFFs leave me with better results than importing jpegs.
Although it is set to Luminance Noise 0% under "Noise Levels" automatically, don't believe that to be 0% noise - its a sliding scale and it is actually picking up a lot of detail.
I avoid the "smooth edges" button and choose "high resolution."
Neat Image is a cool tool but, like any other filter, can really ruin an image. For some reason, too much can result in splotchy fine detail and bizarre artifacts.
On non-DPC images, when I have to I use it and put the results on a separate layer mask so I can lessen and fine tune the results. |
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09/03/2006 09:16:28 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by dahkota:
I have tried the free version of neat image and still use it on occasion. But there are a few things I have noticed:
Even a mostly noise-free picture shows up with a lot noise in neatimage. I think they do something to the image when its imported to make it look worse than it actually is.
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This is in the manual, they increase contrast and sharpening in the preview so that you can see the noise better. I think you can turn it off if you wish.
Håkon
Message edited by author 2006-09-03 09:16:55. |
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09/03/2006 09:23:00 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by ergates:
This is in the manual, they increase contrast and sharpening in the preview so that you can see the noise better. I think you can turn it off if you wish.
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See, I didn't even know there was a manual. Definitely want to turn that off. It can make things UGLY! |
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09/03/2006 09:27:05 AM · #7 |
| I am another that uses noiseware pro. I use to try neat image, but found it made the photos look to plastically. Noseware gives much more control and a better result. |
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09/03/2006 09:28:06 AM · #8 |
If colors change noticably when you view the same image with different applicatons, it's a sure sign that your color management settings are hosed up. In this case, it's likely that Photoshop is set to a color space other than sRBG, either as an editing space in the preferences, or in "Proof colors."
Unless you have fully understand the impact of changing color spaces, it's always better to keep everything set to sRGB. |
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09/03/2006 09:44:11 AM · #9 |
In response to an earlier post stating that noise reduction should be done at the end of processing:
If there's noise in your image you want to run noise reduction as close to the beginning of process as possible. Other processing will enhance noise.
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09/03/2006 10:24:29 AM · #10 |
I use Noiseware allways as last because after processing the image with a filter, levels or changing colors the noise will be increased. So if you do it at the end you can also reduce the noise that comes from the processing. The last 2 things I do is USM and then Noiseware.
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09/03/2006 11:08:23 AM · #11 |
| I run noise reducton first thing, then again at the end if processing has brought up more (as Majanka says). Then sometimes I like the grain that gets brought up, it looks like film grain or just has a pleasing effect so I leave it. And get a bunch of comments and low scores accordingly heh. |
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09/04/2006 06:57:11 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
If colors change noticably when you view the same image with different applicatons, it's a sure sign that your color management settings are hosed up. In this case, it's likely that Photoshop is set to a color space other than sRBG, either as an editing space in the preferences, or in "Proof colors."
Unless you have fully understand the impact of changing color spaces, it's always better to keep everything set to sRGB. |
I believe it had something to do with this kirbic. But the problem resided in neatimage instead of photoshop. Once I killed both the plugin and stand alone app and reloaded them the colors went back to normal stranglt enough.
But it looks as if I should try Noiseware as well to compare apps. |
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