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07/09/2006 01:39:09 PM · #51
I think most of you are on the right track... there are a lot of myths about aspertame and artificial sweetners out there, and true long term effects are still unknown.... also i know I often feel side effects of artificially sweetened products (but it's not stopping me from drinking Diet Coke as I write this!)

Water is what your body wants.... eating "Clean" and pure food REALLY does make you feel better - try it and you will see :-)
07/09/2006 01:44:12 PM · #52
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:


There are over 92 different health side effects associated with aspartame consumption.

I went through the list and found I notice the following un myself:
...[snip]...
excessive thirst -- I constantly am drinking something, usually Diet Coke


You DO realise coke (diet or otherwise) is a diuretic don't you?? Not the best drink to quench your thirst...
07/09/2006 01:51:26 PM · #53
I haven't read this whole thread but it sounds to me like you had a migrane. I had the squigly light thing happen to me again just last week. The first time I had it I freaked out. mine started at the center of my eye and made a circle/ring bigger and bigger until it went away. My eye Dr. said oh- simple you had a migrane. (even tho I had no headache.) He said to figure out the trigger and eliminate it. Maybe you should do a migrane search- sure sounds like your trigger is diet coke.
good luck :0)
07/09/2006 01:53:57 PM · #54
Originally posted by karmabreeze:

Might also be caffeine-related, especially if you drink a lot of it. Caffeine is the trigger for my migraines. I clued in when I took some Excedrin Migraine and just got even sicker, since caffeine is one the the main ingredients in EM.

I've had the opposite experience. I started drinking coffee when I was very young, and when I became a programmer I started drinking lots of it. A while ago, I tried to quit, but when I did, I started having severe headaches. After a few days of pain, I went back to drinking coffee and the headaches stopped. I've never had any problem with headaches before so I'm assuming that the sudden lack of caffeine in my system was the cause. Since then I've slowly cut back on the amount of coffee that I drink and that seems to be working much better.
07/09/2006 01:56:49 PM · #55
Originally posted by micknewton:


A while ago, I tried to quit, but when I did, I started having severe headaches. After a few days of pain, I went back to drinking coffee and the headaches stopped. I've never had any problem with headaches before so I'm assuming that the sudden lack of caffeine in my system was the cause. Since then I've slowly cut back on the amount of coffee that I drink and that seems to be working much better.


You were showing classic signs of caffiene withdrawal. Caffiene is a chemically addictive substance, if you suddenly stop taking it, your body will retaliate.
07/09/2006 02:00:11 PM · #56
Originally posted by klstover:

A good soda alternative:

The Switch


They're not available in all areas but they're expanding pretty steadily. They did... er, beta tests? in my area (Richmond, Virginia) years ago and my boyfriend in Calgary says they're in stores up there now.

From the FAQ: The Switch is 100% Fruit Juice that is 100% Carbonated. We do not add preservatives, sugar, artificial ingredients, or artificial colors to The Switch. You won't find any of the mystery ingredients you cannot pronounce and have no idea what they do.

For my son, I get regular frozen juice concentrate, pour a little in a glass, and top off with club soda/seltzer water, usually a little more than the normal proportions so it is less sweet and more refreshing.

You can also take any regular soda and thin it down with sparkling water to cut the sugar calories. Most sodas have the equivalent of 6-10 teaspoons of sugar/can -- far more than is needed to perceive the drink as "sweet."

Dentists also recommend drinking carbonated/sugared beverages with a straw to that the liquid largely bypasses the teeth, reducing the likelihood of decay.

Message edited by author 2006-07-09 14:00:41.
07/09/2006 02:03:14 PM · #57
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

You were showing classic signs of caffiene withdrawal. Caffiene is a chemically addictive substance, if you suddenly stop taking it, your body will retaliate.

Yeah, my body is always retaliating about one thing or another. The latest episode, on the morning after our fireworks party, it was over beer. Stupid body doesn't know what's good for it! :P

07/09/2006 02:09:08 PM · #58
Originally posted by oOWonderBreadOo:

I haven't read this whole thread but it sounds to me like you had a migrane. I had the squigly light thing happen to me again just last week. The first time I had it I freaked out. mine started at the center of my eye and made a circle/ring bigger and bigger until it went away. My eye Dr. said oh- simple you had a migrane. (even tho I had no headache.) He said to figure out the trigger and eliminate it. Maybe you should do a migrane search- sure sounds like your trigger is diet coke.
good luck :0)


You might want to check out my post in this thread, if you haven't already. It's probably part of your hypoglycemia.
07/09/2006 02:12:00 PM · #59
Originally posted by micknewton:

Originally posted by karmabreeze:

Might also be caffeine-related, especially if you drink a lot of it. Caffeine is the trigger for my migraines. I clued in when I took some Excedrin Migraine and just got even sicker, since caffeine is one the the main ingredients in EM.

I've had the opposite experience. I started drinking coffee when I was very young, and when I became a programmer I started drinking lots of it. A while ago, I tried to quit, but when I did, I started having severe headaches. After a few days of pain, I went back to drinking coffee and the headaches stopped. I've never had any problem with headaches before so I'm assuming that the sudden lack of caffeine in my system was the cause. Since then I've slowly cut back on the amount of coffee that I drink and that seems to be working much better.


That's called withdrawal. Stick it out and the headaches stop.
07/09/2006 02:16:06 PM · #60
Purely anecdotal:

I was quite addicted to caffeine and would get a vice-like headache (different than the optical migraine) if I went one day without it.

When I started the ketogenic diet I simultaneously cut out carbs, caffeine, artificial sweeteners and alcohol. Amazingly, I had NO caffeine withdrawal, other than slight afternoon drowsiness for a couple of days.

I makes me wonder if caffeine acts in conjunction with other substances to cause the withdrawal symptoms?

BTW: The research I did suggests that weaning is better than cold turkey for getting off of caffeine.

Message edited by author 2006-07-09 14:16:42.
07/09/2006 02:24:23 PM · #61
Well, I'm down to one or two cups per day now. The problem is that I started buying it from places like Starbucks, instead of making it at home or the office, and it's costing me a small fortune! :D
07/09/2006 02:51:25 PM · #62
Originally posted by micknewton:

I never could understand the idea behind diet soda. I can understand wanting to reduce the amount of sugar in your diet, but if you're drinking so much soda that the sugar it contains is causing a problem, then you're simply drinking too much soda. The same goes for chewing gum and other products where aspartame and other artificial sweeteners are replacing sugar. Yes, most of us consume more sugar than we should, but at least it's food, not poison. Besides, it makes me a sweeter person. :D


A Coke Classic has 9 tsp of sugar per 12 oz serving. If you don't think 9 tsp of sugar could cause a problem, especially if consumed several times per day, day in and day out, then I think you will find yourself in the minority.
07/09/2006 02:54:50 PM · #63
Originally posted by GeneralE:


For my son, I get regular frozen juice concentrate, pour a little in a glass, and top off with club soda/seltzer water, usually a little more than the normal proportions so it is less sweet and more refreshing.

You can also take any regular soda and thin it down with sparkling water to cut the sugar calories. Most sodas have the equivalent of 6-10 teaspoons of sugar/can -- far more than is needed to perceive the drink as "sweet."


I do this too. I make a drink out of soda water, lime juice and a packet of stevia. It tastes a lot like Sprite. When I'm being bad I add a little bit of canned peach or mango nectar. When I'm being really bad...vodka!
07/09/2006 02:56:40 PM · #64
Diet Coke Petition

Found this on the web. Maybe we can ALL make a difference!
Becky
07/09/2006 03:00:10 PM · #65
Just to lend a little vocabulary here (and no I haven't been able to look up the literature yet).

Toxic reaction: a reaction to a substance which would be experienced by the majority of people taking the substance.

Idiosyncratic reaction: a reaction to a substance particular to an individual.

Allergic reaction: a subset of idiosyncratic reactions mediated by an antibody called IgE.

It is highly unlikely aspartame is toxic; it is drunk by millions and millions of people every day. The literature (that I haven't been able to see) seems controvertial which may mean the reactions exist, but are idiosyncratic to a small portion of the population (small enough that not all researchers run into them). It is very unlikely it is an allergic reaction as the molecule is too small for the immune system to typically get excited about it. Allergic reactions to foods also come with a rash 90% of the time.
07/09/2006 03:16:41 PM · #66
This is a great resource for health issues...
and this particular link deals with soft drinks soft drink wars
07/09/2006 03:19:54 PM · #67
Oh, I forgot to ask - were you drinking it or pouring it into your eyes?
07/09/2006 04:44:53 PM · #68
Originally posted by jemison:

Originally posted by micknewton:

I never could understand the idea behind diet soda. I can understand wanting to reduce the amount of sugar in your diet, but if you're drinking so much soda that the sugar it contains is causing a problem, then you're simply drinking too much soda. The same goes for chewing gum and other products where aspartame and other artificial sweeteners are replacing sugar. Yes, most of us consume more sugar than we should, but at least it's food, not poison. Besides, it makes me a sweeter person. :D


A Coke Classic has 9 tsp of sugar per 12 oz serving. If you don't think 9 tsp of sugar could cause a problem, especially if consumed several times per day, day in and day out, then I think you will find yourself in the minority.

A quote from from my earlier post...

"I can understand wanting to reduce the amount of sugar in your diet, but if you're drinking so much soda that the sugar it contains is causing a problem, then you're simply drinking too much soda."

Drinking several Coke Classic drinks per day, day in and day out, might be considered a bit too much soda... by some people. :P

07/09/2006 04:48:13 PM · #69
Originally posted by micknewton:

Originally posted by jemison:

Originally posted by micknewton:

I never could understand the idea behind diet soda. I can understand wanting to reduce the amount of sugar in your diet, but if you're drinking so much soda that the sugar it contains is causing a problem, then you're simply drinking too much soda. The same goes for chewing gum and other products where aspartame and other artificial sweeteners are replacing sugar. Yes, most of us consume more sugar than we should, but at least it's food, not poison. Besides, it makes me a sweeter person. :D


A Coke Classic has 9 tsp of sugar per 12 oz serving. If you don't think 9 tsp of sugar could cause a problem, especially if consumed several times per day, day in and day out, then I think you will find yourself in the minority.

A quote from from my earlier post...

"I can understand wanting to reduce the amount of sugar in your diet, but if you're drinking so much soda that the sugar it contains is causing a problem, then you're simply drinking too much soda."

Drinking several Coke Classic drinks per day, day in and day out, might be considered a bit too much soda... by some people. :P


I'd say even one is too much. 9 tsp of sugar?!
07/09/2006 04:54:59 PM · #70
Hope you will feel better soon.

Both of your referenced articles are private individuals, one in fact is doing it as a business to sell books and give seminars. Before everyone jumps to conclusions I'm sure there are true and reputable organizations that could be used to substantiate the claims made by these assumptions. If the claims were supported by organizations such as John Hopkins, Mayo Clinic or other large reputable University hospital clinical evaluations and not just an individual who worked there then I believe it would be more of a concern. Not saying at all that most cemicals can't hurt you, the less we intake if our health is normal the better. My wife also ready something like this in an internet pyramid letter several months ago so she stopped drinking diet coke and now only drinks regular coke. Hummmm can it be any better for you. Extra worthless calories. Being overweight from too many calories is a proven fact to hurt health. Check it out, it may be right and then again might be a way for a few individuals to have their 15 minutes of fame.
07/09/2006 05:01:36 PM · #71
Leroy dewd - stay weller man.

Eschew the evils of soda, I've said it for moons without end: "That stuff will kill ya".

Wine.
Water.
Beer.
07/09/2006 05:29:47 PM · #72


Lots of articles about aspartame

07/09/2006 05:51:55 PM · #73
We are all playing Doctor. I would go to a real one, see what he has to say. Thats pretty serious stuff Leroy.

Just my thoughts...we need more model shots! :)

07/09/2006 05:59:12 PM · #74
I am glad you're ok, Leroy. I read most everything in this thread and have two questions...

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

As some of you may know, I live with 20/200 vision (20/100 corrected), due to toxoplasmosis during pregnancy.

WHEN were you pregnant?? I had no idea...

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

After I get home from church I'll be curious to look through the scientific literature... I'll let you know what I find out about aspartame when I get home.

WHAT are you doing on DPC, posting in the forums while you are at Church??

Those are the only issues that got my attention and everyone else seemed to miss them. ;-)
07/09/2006 06:37:21 PM · #75
Originally posted by ralphnev:

Originally posted by Megatherian:


carbonation decalcifies your bones though - so if we want to get really technical here - don't drink carbonated beverages.


better have a source for a statement like that --
the only thing i coulf find was that it was urban legend
urban legend


People with Osteoporosis are often told not to drink carbonated beverages for this reason.

From a site on Osteoporosis:

"Carbonated soft drinks – these contain a large amount of phosphorous and research has shown a link between too much phosphorous and calcium loss. Teenagers in particular are at extreme risk. Carbonation also neutralizes stomach acid making it harder for you to absorb calcium"
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