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08/14/2003 04:21:23 PM · #1
First off, I must say that I'm not a big fan off using my camera's flash. But I recently went on a photo excursion to my local park and took one of my (current) favorite photographs using the flash. Thought I'd share it with you folks and see what you think. =-)



I'm also interested in hearing others thoughts on flash. What makes a good flash photo? Share some of your favorite flash photos that you have taken.

08/14/2003 04:38:38 PM · #2
Very nice, great sky.
I might burn a bit here and there (fence, tyres, some of the girls highlights), but as it is, it is pretty cool. :)
08/14/2003 04:50:14 PM · #3
Originally posted by erin_m02:

What makes a good flash photo? Share some of your favorite flash photos that you have taken.


I think what makes a good flash photo is one where you can't tell that the flash was used. The best time to use a flash is when there is bright light (fill flash rather than as a sole point of light)

Couple of recent favourites

Sunflower

butterfly
08/14/2003 04:55:48 PM · #4
Great effect (butterfly). I shall keep that in mind. :)


08/14/2003 04:57:26 PM · #5
Here is my all-time favorite flash photo. I hesitate to use it but this one turned out so nicely, in my humble opinion.
08/14/2003 05:01:01 PM · #6
I cannot give a lot of advice about Flash photos because I do not like to use it either.

Nice pic. I particularly liked the composition.

Funny enough, I tought that the sky is the weak point of it because its light makes it look like painted.

If you like, I can give it a try with Photoshop to visualize how it should be made stronger.
08/14/2003 09:58:13 PM · #7
Originally posted by Azrifel:


I might burn a bit here and there (fence, tyres, some of the girls highlights), but as it is, it is pretty cool. :)


Here is my "burned" version. There isn't a huge difference, but just enough that I think it looks better. I, however, am not too experienced with using burn and dodge. Thanks for the advice!

08/14/2003 10:04:32 PM · #8
Nice pics, Gordon and joanns! Those really do look quite nice.


Originally posted by glimpses:



If you like, I can give it a try with Photoshop to visualize how it should be made stronger.


Permission granted. =-)

08/14/2003 10:22:49 PM · #9
i love flash photos, when taken right :), these aren't bad at all, but what i love doing most of all is bouncing the flash. Here's the latest photo I took with the flash that I liked (flash tilted up at about 75 degrees):



overall i find i use the flash for two reasons, fill flash ( used it quite a bit at a wedding recently), and as a bounced light source, which can create some great soft illumination (sort of makes the ceiling act as a big softbox).
08/15/2003 09:28:12 AM · #10
Nice cat, great light in the eyes!
08/20/2003 11:47:32 AM · #11
Yes, these are all great examples of successful flash pictures. I really hate using my flash. The shadows in Erin's photo is a bit of a bummer - something that wouldn't have bothered me a year ago. Luckily, they're not very noticeable. Joanns - that's one of the best on camera flash shots I've ever seen. Refracted is lucky enough to have one of those 717s - with the swivel mount body/flash. I wanted one soooo bad, but they were $1K when I bought my S-85. Now I see they're about $500 if you go to the right place!!! Nice work, I'd like to see more flash shots, even misses!

Bri

Message edited by author 2003-08-20 11:48:03.
08/20/2003 12:07:42 PM · #12
This is taken with a Sony 717, built in flash. I set the exposure to get some color in the background sky (sunset at Pikes Peak, Colorado) and adjusted my distance to subject until I had the proper flash exposure. This is Jonah, my middle of three boys. We go up to the Palmer Park Overlook to watch the sunset about once a week!
//www.pbase.com/image/19808228
08/20/2003 12:29:26 PM · #13
Originally posted by Refracted:

Here's the latest photo I took with the flash that I liked (flash tilted up at about 75 degrees)

Was this an external flash then?
08/20/2003 12:35:33 PM · #14
Originally posted by erin_m02:

Nice pics, Gordon and joanns! Those really do look quite nice.


Originally posted by glimpses:



If you like, I can give it a try with Photoshop to visualize how it should be made stronger.


Permission granted. =-)


Sorry for the delay.

That's my effort:



Maybe a bit too strong in some tones, but it highlights the aspects that I liked more of the photo.
08/22/2003 11:57:39 PM · #15
Originally posted by glimpses:



Sorry for the delay.

That's my effort:

Maybe a bit too strong in some tones, but it highlights the aspects that I liked more of the photo.


Wow! That looks really awesome! Has a very strange feeling to it. It almost makes it look a little scary. ;-) Thank you very much for the effort! Could you post some of the steps you used?
08/23/2003 09:36:48 AM · #16


Just a quicky in PS;

Digital Velvia Pro @ setting 3 (Channel Mixing & Curves)
Burned the wood, the steel, the tyres and parts of the girls.

Might require another layer to tweak the skin tones, step back in history and history brush the skin.

A different perspective.

(It seems to disappear now and then, here is the URL: //www.pbase.com/image/20573527

Message edited by author 2003-08-23 14:21:34.
08/23/2003 09:45:52 AM · #17
Firstly,

as I mentioned in other message (not in this thread), I was very much inspired by Harry Potter's atmosphere and I tried to reproduce it in your pic.

The essential steps have been:

[1] creation of masks to apply/modify corrections to specific areas only(such as the sky).
[2] use of adjustment layers such as: Hue/Saturation, Brightness/Contrast and Levels

I could tell you the exact values I used but you can learn more by experimenting with different values.

It is fun and you can also find a combination which will be more pleasant or generate a complete different atmosphere.

Message edited by author 2003-08-23 09:46:12.
08/24/2003 12:55:47 AM · #18
I haven't seen very many typical flash photos that look good. The shadows it creates look un-natural (that would be because they ARE un-natural), and I don't find it very asthetically pleasing at all. Now slaves and bounces; those work a lot better.
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