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04/06/2006 05:20:40 PM · #1 |
Hope this isn't a dumb question.
Wondering what peeps thoughts are on this.
I am weighing the following:
1) Getting a D200 and using my 50 1.8D as my primary lens (or maybe getting a cheapo tele.)
2) Getting the D50 (maybe D70) with the Nikon 18-200 VR
Somewhat comparable pricewise...
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04/06/2006 05:25:23 PM · #2 |
Another option:
Get a used D70 and the new 18-200 VR. Start saving for the D200 and when you can afford it, resell the D70 for what you paid for it. |
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04/06/2006 06:15:59 PM · #3 |
I agree with yakatme. Go with the D70 and the VR glass. I think you'll be happier starting with a lens that gives you more flexibility. The D70 is a terrific camera, and I still use mine frequently. Spend some time getting to know the D70, save some cash, off it later and get your D200.
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04/06/2006 06:46:25 PM · #4 |
I'd say go with the best body you can possibly afford. In the case of the 20D/350D it might not be worth it for some, but the D200 is a huge step up from the D70.
And don't get cheap lenses - the 50 1.8 should be great, and it'll give you a taste of what the camera can do and leave you lusting for a dedicated wide angle lens and a fast telephoto. |
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04/06/2006 06:55:02 PM · #5 |
| I've got to respectfully disagree with MadMan2k on this - if you buy a great lens today, it will remain a great lens... But they are still making improvements and breakthroughs in the sensors, battery, storage aspects of digital SLR bodies. A D50 or D70 will be great for now - save up and then when the time comes you can get the D3X70s or whatever is the hippest, coolest thing out there a year or two from now. |
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04/06/2006 07:02:41 PM · #6 |
I'd say D70 with 18-200. Unless there is a feature in D200 which you cannot live without.
Nick
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04/06/2006 07:04:54 PM · #7 |
I'm in a similar situation, I have a D70 and would love to upgrade to a D200 but I also want an 18-200 VR.
I've decided to stick with the D70 and get the lens, the D200 can wait for another day
edit: I also have a 50mm 1.8 and love it :)
Message edited by author 2006-04-06 19:07:06. |
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04/06/2006 07:06:19 PM · #8 |
| If I had that choice right now, I'd go with the 18-200 VR and keep my D70. The other can wait. |
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04/06/2006 07:28:30 PM · #9 |
I just got a D200, and all I can say is i love it!!
I was going to get the 18-200vr, but decided to go above and beyond and save for the 70-200vr and 17-55 f2.8
(getting by with the tamron 28-75 f2.8 and a tokina 17mm)
The d200 is at the beginning of it's life cycle and probably won't be replaced for a few years so I thought it was a safe buy.
I played with a d70 in the store, but haven't really used one so I can't comment on that. (the d200 felt better and worked better/faster) in the store though. but to each their own.
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04/07/2006 02:50:15 AM · #10 |
Hmmmmmmmmm, interesting question
Great Body, with great prime or ok body with great optics and range.
Unless you can live with just having a 50mm lens, which is a short telephoto prime on a cropped sensor, I'd say get a refurbished D50 from Beachcamera for $399 with a 18-200. So that when you can, you can upgrade the body later.
If you don't mind the limits of a 50mm prime, then D200 by all means.
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04/07/2006 03:06:55 AM · #11 |
| As a D200 owner, I would suggest going for the D70 with a better lens. You can always change the body, but you tend to hold onto to lenses as long as you stay with compatible brands. The D70 is an awesome camera in itself and you will get more enjoyment getting top results with a decent all round lens. |
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04/07/2006 03:49:05 AM · #12 |
Except for the noise, I don't believe the D200 is such a big step up from the D70. I'm currently on a waiting list for the 18-200 lens and will only be looking at a new body when it has at least 13.5MP (1.5x resolution of the D70).
Get the VR! |
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04/07/2006 05:16:28 AM · #13 |
D200+ 50 f/1.8
The 18-200 is just way too slow imo, despite the VR.
D200 has a much larger viewfinder, combined with a fast lens it means a good clean view on your subject, even in difficult light conditions. (I've had the D200 in my hands with a 17-55 DX f/2.8, so I have compared them IRL)
50 f/1.8 is much sharper, 18-200 hasn't convinced me yet (too darn slow).
I'd start with that kit and add other lenses later.
Message edited by author 2006-04-07 05:20:14.
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04/07/2006 07:26:10 AM · #14 |
Go with choice 1. Get the D200.
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04/07/2006 08:02:21 AM · #15 |
I'd say a d200 with an 18-70 would be your best bet...second choice would be a d70 with 18-70. That lens is so versatile and useful and truly is capable of creating stunning photos.
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04/07/2006 12:48:27 PM · #16 |
I like the idea of the D70 in the second hand market. Good prices there.
I would also suggest the 18-70 kit lens plus a 70-200 f/2.8. You could get the Sigma 70-200 instead to save a few bucks.
That would probably leave you more than enough room to get that 50mm f/1.8 too while you are at it. |
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04/07/2006 12:59:25 PM · #17 |
Go Canon!!
Just Kidding.
IMHO, If you're novice in SLR cameras, go with D70 and the 18-200 vr, wait until D200 price drop a bit while you save.
Thanks.
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04/07/2006 01:00:37 PM · #18 |
i've got both the D70 and D200, i love both cameras, however the D200 is by far the better camera. As for the lens go with the 18-200 VR, you get an extra 4 stops and much more versitility.
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04/07/2006 01:04:28 PM · #19 |
Thanks for all the replies.
I already have a 50 1.8 as my only lens for my N80 (I had and sold a Sigma 28-70mm 2.8 EX).
I like the idea of just 1 lens for on the go - the 18-200.
I think I'd probably use the 50 (now an 85) indoors a lot indoors b/c of the big ap.
I'm leaning towards maybe a used D70s w/ the 18-200.
Didn't know what was the most bang for the buck, better glass or better body.
Sounds like not a helluva lotta difference w/ the D200 and D70. |
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04/07/2006 01:10:34 PM · #20 |
My $.02 go for better glass. The D70s is a fantastic camera and I am still learning how to use it. I am going to upgrade but not for a year or so. Then it will most likley be the D2X. But the glass will stay with me forever. :-)
Good Luck! |
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04/08/2006 10:26:19 PM · #21 |
Sounds like a good choice to me RSwank. All the people I know that shoot D70's love them and they produce some fantastico images. I don't really think that you will experience a really big increase in picture quality from the D70 to the D200. A minor difference, probably.
From what I understand, the D200 doesn't have much of an edge on 8MP Canon offerings, if any at all, and there isn't much of a jump from 6MP D70's to 8MP either. There's a point at which increasing the pixel density doesn't actually help that much. Seeing the latest cameras that haven't increased pixel density by Canon, I'd say that we are sitting pretty close to that line right now. There's plenty of good things to say about the D70.
But in the future, you will always be able to decide what to do with your D70 if you want to upgrade later. You could keep it as a second body without much guilt because of a good price that you got on the initial buy or you could resell it for very close to what you paid for it and help pay for a D200.
Have fun with that VR! |
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04/27/2006 10:20:57 AM · #22 |
go for the D200 w/ 18-200 vr lens.
learn on the camera that will be
your breadwinner. afterall you have
1-year warranty to find out the
limitations of this camera/lens. |
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04/27/2006 10:32:10 AM · #23 |
I own both the D200 and D70, and love both cameras. Personally i would go with the D200. I will have a steeper learning curve but in the end will last you much longer than the D70. As for glass, if you can afford the 18-200 VR, i'd gor for that. If that isn't an option, go with something like the 24-120 VR. Its a great lens for just about anything.
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04/27/2006 11:06:41 AM · #24 |
It depends on what you like to shoot, whether the 50mm will suit you.
I can't take my 50mm all around as I find it extremely limited. In other words...forget landscapes, street scenes or anything remotely wide. It's a great in-tight lens but could give you trouble as a walk-around.
The D200 is a great camera but I'm not enjoying the noise levels above ISO 400. Also I'm finding reddish tone increases at higher ISO's...not too hard to fix but odd none the less.
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04/27/2006 11:33:41 AM · #25 |
I would say get the lesser body with the better lens. You will almost certainly be upgrading the body at some time in the future no matter which one you get now, but high quality glass will continue to serve you well as you upgrade through several bodies over the years ahead.
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