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01/25/2006 07:33:39 AM · #1


Ever do a search for an image on Google or any of the other many search engines. perhaps it might be wise to be careful about what keywords you use.

For instance, simply type in something as simple as "boy girl" and click the images option on Webcralwer and you will get 3 full pages of porn. Now if you were to open one of these site by accident, which happens to all of us, would your name go on a list?

Would you still search with a carefree attitude if you knew that your "keywords" were being scrutinised by a third party? This is exactly what's happening, with the US justice department asking a federal court in California to compel Google (other search engines have agreed to comply) to turn over its search records for use as evidence in a case where the government is defending the constitutionality of the Child Online Protection Act.

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01/25/2006 08:00:47 AM · #2
I predict this thread will be in Rant by lunch today.

As a diehard Christian Republican, I don't like this potential privacy invasion either, so for once Mr. Battilana and I sort of agree :)
01/25/2006 08:18:37 AM · #3
I instantly thought of this

Message edited by author 2006-01-25 08:18:52.
01/25/2006 08:43:30 AM · #4
For another example I Googled in the word "dog" and of the more then 430 million sites with that word 23,100,000 came up with for "dog" with the four letter vulgar for fornicate in less then (0.36 seconds)

What are your chances of opening one of them by mistake? Chances are slim that even if this new probe was being used for profiling, which I am sure it will be if we let it, that there is still little chance they could single you out for a few misguided searches - unless you were already singled out for something.
01/25/2006 08:50:02 AM · #5
Originally posted by jonr:

I instantly thought of this


LMAO!!!! That is hilarious!

As for google... it bothers me mainly because I have kids, and what if they are looking up a cartoon they like and BAM! IT's porn. Really... I have already looked up cartoons and came back with toon porn! Its just rediculous!
01/25/2006 08:56:51 AM · #6
That was an awesome video! ha

And I hope Google wins this one. We're losing our rights to privacy to the government everytime we turn around.

I agree that it's ridiculous the amount of porn sites that come up in our search engines, but most firewall software packages should allow you to set it so that those sites cannot be accessed from your PC. (I know ZoneAlarm does)
01/25/2006 09:01:02 AM · #7
Google has a pretty good filter so the porn images shouldn't turn up. I believe it defaults to the safe search so if you are getting porn you (or someone that uses your computer) must have turned the safe search feature off so you (or they) could find the porn :) Might want to check that.

That or google's filter just missed it.

As for the government watching what you search for, most of the time when I hear of the child porn creeps getting busted they had been doing it for years before they got caught. I highly doubt you'd get busted or put on a list for a few pictures that showed up on your screen from inadvertant searches. Has anyone heard of someone getting busted for this that wasn't obviously guilty?
01/25/2006 09:01:40 AM · #8
no, but some guy at work "mysteriously" googled queanbeez and my DPC profile showed up. It really sucks! I dont like people having access to my profile like that.
01/25/2006 10:54:11 AM · #9
Look what else Google has been up to...and Microsoft...and Yahoo:

"Google To Censor Search Results in China
The leading internet search company Google has announced it will launch a China-based version of its website that will censor search results in accordance with demands of the Chinese government. Google says it will mitigate the censorship by informing users when search results are censored. But topics such as democratic reform, Taiwanese independence or the banned Falun Gong movement will be off-limits. The news comes amid revelations other major online firms have gone even further in meeting government censorship demands. Last year, Microsoft launched a Chinese portal that bars the use of words such as “freedom” and “democracy” in the names of web logs. Meanwhile, Yahoo has admitted it aided authorities in the prosecution of a Chinese journalist by disclosing information about his e-mail account."
DemocracyNow.org
01/25/2006 10:55:16 AM · #10
sorry, but if we are 'afraid' of the internet...get off the internet. If you don't want your kids getting into things they shouldn't, monitor their use and utilize your parental control features.

I must be lucky...I google ALL the time...various things...don't have any children so parental controls are not turned on.

I RARELY get any porn
01/25/2006 11:07:03 AM · #11
Originally posted by Olyuzi:

Look what else Google has been up to...and Microsoft...and Yahoo:

"Google To Censor Search Results in China
The leading internet search company Google has announced it will launch a China-based version of its website that will censor search results in accordance with demands of the Chinese government. Google says it will mitigate the censorship by informing users when search results are censored. But topics such as democratic reform, Taiwanese independence or the banned Falun Gong movement will be off-limits. The news comes amid revelations other major online firms have gone even further in meeting government censorship demands. Last year, Microsoft launched a Chinese portal that bars the use of words such as “freedom” and “democracy” in the names of web logs. Meanwhile, Yahoo has admitted it aided authorities in the prosecution of a Chinese journalist by disclosing information about his e-mail account."
DemocracyNow.org


Blame China for that one. The search engines just made a business decision. Censor your searches or get out of one of the largest markets in the world.
01/25/2006 11:07:39 AM · #12
Originally posted by jonr:

I instantly thought of this

Long live China!

Thanks for your interest in Google Video.

Currently, the playback feature of Google Video isn't available in your country.

We hope to make this feature available more widely in the future, and we really appreciate your patience
01/25/2006 11:25:39 AM · #13
Originally posted by LoudDog:

Has anyone heard of someone getting busted for this that wasn't obviously guilty?


So I'm not guilty. So I shouldn't care if someone else reads my email because I'm not guilty. So I shouldn't care if they access the files on my computer because I'm not guilty. So I shouldn't care if they screen or listen in on my phone calls because I'm not guilty. I have nothing to hide. If they want to search my computer for child porn or dissident text they are welcome anytime. I have nothing to hide. I am a good citizen. Probable cause? What?
01/25/2006 11:45:59 AM · #14

Monitoring like this has been going on as long as there have been a way for people to communicate. I suspect there was someone monitoring the grunts between cavemen way back in the early days of communications.

It was the need to monitor thousands of conversations for certain keywords and phrases that partly drove the developement of the early super computers (Cray being one of them). During the years of modem growth on BBSes (Bulletin Board Systems for you youngsters that don't know what came before the internet) the government and other agencies would tap into the phone lines and capture the modem signals and find out what people were talking about and doing. This was all done in the name of the Cold War of course.

Up front, you could say they are invading our privacy. But frankly, that's fine with me as long as it's done for the purpose that we have created laws for. What irrates me more, is not the agencies doing what we have intrusted them to do (to protect our country, the people of the United States, our property and our way of life) but the people that feel they have to tell all the bad guys (via the media) what is being done and how it's being done. And putting road blocks up to keep it from being done where it is necessary.

I don't think enough is being done myself. But that's just me.

Mike
01/25/2006 11:54:53 AM · #15
This is hillarious
Originally posted by jonr:

I instantly thought of this
01/25/2006 11:58:27 AM · #16
Originally posted by MikeJ:

Up front, you could say they are invading our privacy. But frankly, that's fine with me as long as it's done for the purpose that we have created laws for. What irrates me more, is not the agencies doing what we have intrusted them to do (to protect our country, the people of the United States, our property and our way of life)...


Our way of life? When someone says "our way of life" they may be thinking the right to shop in a mall or the right to drive an SUV at low fuel prices, but this its what comes to mind for me:

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Our way of life. It's worth protecting.
01/25/2006 12:03:18 PM · #17
Originally posted by jonr:

I instantly thought of this


LMFAO!!!!!!
01/25/2006 12:05:27 PM · #18
Originally posted by LoudDog:

Blame China for that one. The search engines just made a business decision. Censor your searches or get out of one of the largest markets in the world.


Then they should have stayed out. Yeah, I know it's a business decision but it's pathetic how they like to show "values" when it's convient. I would assume googles real issue is the competition might be able to figure out some of it's search secrets if they got access to some raw data.

It's not just China - I know France already does that and probably other countries also.

Okay - Rant here we come :-)
01/25/2006 12:09:25 PM · #19
Originally posted by MikeJ:

Monitoring like this has been going on as long as there have been a way for people to communicate. I suspect there was someone monitoring the grunts between cavemen way back in the early days of communications.

It was the need to monitor thousands of conversations for certain keywords and phrases that partly drove the developement of the early super computers (Cray being one of them). During the years of modem growth on BBSes (Bulletin Board Systems for you youngsters that don't know what came before the internet) the government and other agencies would tap into the phone lines and capture the modem signals and find out what people were talking about and doing. This was all done in the name of the Cold War of course.

Up front, you could say they are invading our privacy. But frankly, that's fine with me as long as it's done for the purpose that we have created laws for. What irrates me more, is not the agencies doing what we have intrusted them to do (to protect our country, the people of the United States, our property and our way of life) but the people that feel they have to tell all the bad guys (via the media) what is being done and how it's being done. And putting road blocks up to keep it from being done where it is necessary.

I don't think enough is being done myself. But that's just me.

Mike

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And what is to be done when those invading our privacy are breaking the laws themselves, such as flouting the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or when these invasions of privacy are used for political purposes, such as when anti-war groups, such as the Quaker organization, Christian Worker, gets surveilled? There must be checks and balances as with an oversight body to make sure that these kinds of practices are used in specific instances, rather than broad sweeps.
01/25/2006 02:01:49 PM · #20
Originally posted by nsbca7:

Originally posted by LoudDog:

Has anyone heard of someone getting busted for this that wasn't obviously guilty?


So I'm not guilty. So I shouldn't care if someone else reads my email because I'm not guilty. So I shouldn't care if they access the files on my computer because I'm not guilty. So I shouldn't care if they screen or listen in on my phone calls because I'm not guilty. I have nothing to hide. If they want to search my computer for child porn or dissident text they are welcome anytime. I have nothing to hide. I am a good citizen. Probable cause? What?


your emails have never been private, people read them all the time. The company you work for and people at your ISP can read any and all of your emails without a warrant. they can sopena all of your emails and put them on FOX news. people can forward your emails to anyone they want. never put anything private or personal in an email.
not sure about pulling files off your computer without a warrant, do you have an example of it happening to someone? If they have reasonable cause i'm sure they can easily get a warrant and if they suspect someone of child porn i hope the get a warrant and catch the scum.
if it's a matter of national security I hope they screen your calls, but they should have authority to do so before hand. if there is no time to get authority, i hope they still listen in and let the right people know what they did after the fact so there are checks and balances in the system.

Message edited by author 2006-01-25 14:03:01.
01/25/2006 02:05:30 PM · #21
Originally posted by Olyuzi:

And what is to be done when those invading our privacy are breaking the laws themselves, such as flouting the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or when these invasions of privacy are used for political purposes, such as when anti-war groups, such as the Quaker organization, Christian Worker, gets surveilled? There must be checks and balances as with an oversight body to make sure that these kinds of practices are used in specific instances, rather than broad sweeps.


When that happens the guilty people should be thrown in jail and receive the punishment the deserve if there is proof that a crime was commited.
01/25/2006 02:16:55 PM · #22
Originally posted by LoudDog:

Originally posted by Olyuzi:

And what is to be done when those invading our privacy are breaking the laws themselves, such as flouting the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or when these invasions of privacy are used for political purposes, such as when anti-war groups, such as the Quaker organization, Christian Worker, gets surveilled? There must be checks and balances as with an oversight body to make sure that these kinds of practices are used in specific instances, rather than broad sweeps.


When that happens the guilty people should be thrown in jail and receive the punishment the deserve if there is proof that a crime was commited.


Absent active enforcement of the "probable cause" section of the constitution, the authorities are free to target any individual they wish in an attempt to uncover instances of wrongdoing. And in the past theyhave done exactly that despite that the constitution makes it illegal. The FBI was notorious for this in the Hoover days. Their persecution of (to name just one example) the Rev. Martin Luther King was scandalous. They uncovered details of his personal life and leaked them like a sieve in an attempt to discredit him.

I cannot understand any American actually believing that in the area of "probable cause" the end justifies the means. I completely reject that position.

R.
01/25/2006 02:42:54 PM · #23
As a fourth grade teacher, I refused to allow my students to use the internet searches in my classroom. My colleagues were horrified. "Why," they kept asking. Because they are going to accidentally pull up the wrong material. "They can't," they said, "the school has filters and traps to protect the kids." Some time latter, the next door teacher came running into my room "Please help she said. I don't know what happened!"
I went to her room and noticed all her students were gone. I asked what the problem was. She pointed to one of the computer screens. She explained to me that two of her students were doing research on the "Titanic." (The exhibit was in Cleveland at the time.) You can guess what was on the screen. The site would not let her get out of it quickly. She sent her students to the restroom. I asked her why she simply didn't shut the computer down. Her answer, "I panicked!"
01/25/2006 02:45:30 PM · #24
I've got this song stuck in my head now... lol... thanks.. The Internet is for porn....the internet is for porn...

Originally posted by jonr:

I instantly thought of this

01/25/2006 02:56:18 PM · #25
The Internet is for porn....the internet is for porn... the internet is for porn...
that was great!

i guess i will be getting scrutinized anytime now since i did a search for "kill the president".. this is the start of communism..lol

has anyone done a search on google for failure? try it search it and hit im feeling lucky
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