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01/23/2006 11:55:22 PM · #1
Do you suppose it's a good idea to place a reference to the photographer, who inspired the entry, in the image title? Or is it best to keep it a secret until after the challenge is over?
01/23/2006 11:59:56 PM · #2
Is this thread 3 or 4 on this?
01/24/2006 12:00:18 AM · #3
keep it a secret, gives me more time to work out who i'm supposed
to be copying....... :)
01/24/2006 12:00:54 AM · #4
Definite reference...

I'll have one there and hope many others do too. How will I know how to judge your shot in it's "tributeness"?
01/24/2006 12:06:53 AM · #5
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Definite reference...


Well I entered mine... Man why do I torture myself? Either this is great or Im going for the brown....
01/24/2006 12:07:45 AM · #6
Definite reference... jason spoil sport!
01/24/2006 12:09:29 AM · #7
Originally posted by goodman:

Definite reference... jason spoil sport!


Yep. why do you think he's "achoo" ;P
01/24/2006 12:11:35 AM · #8
Do what you want with the title...there's no hard & fast rule. In prior threads/postings there hasn't been a concensus on this subject. Personally, I think that most (I say MOST) voters won't take the time to look up any name reference anyway.
01/24/2006 12:18:35 AM · #9
I used my tribute photogs name in my title. I dont think I am good enough for any one to get it right off...I dont think...
I am INTO this one, I am all nervous...I dont know why. Keep your fingers crossed for me and I'll cross mine for you !!
01/24/2006 12:21:00 AM · #10
I don't now a lot of famous photographers so without their name in the title I would not be able to give it a fair vote. So I probably just won't vote in this one unless most people decide to use their name in the title so I can look at their work when voting.
01/24/2006 12:33:08 AM · #11
If I get this one I'm attempting submitted, I don't plan on referring to the artist in the title except to name it the same kind of style the artist named all of their work...

Besides, I think it'll be neat to see if any comments pop up that name the artist. :)

Message edited by author 2006-01-24 00:33:40.
01/24/2006 01:00:36 AM · #12
I just read the discussion under the 'Post possible tribute photographers here' thread, and I think that I made up my mind *not* to include the name in the title. It seems to me that most people won't know most of the attributed photographers anyways, so what's the point?
01/24/2006 01:12:13 AM · #13
The point would be so they could look it up. You have nothing to lose, and possibly much to gain. I explained in another thread that I think my shot is not very "DPC". My only hope is that people will appreciate my ability to emulate my chosen photographer. Therefore, I include the name.

Perhaps, because I don't know many photographers, I would like the name (and thus include it in my own shot for the similarly ignorant)...
01/24/2006 01:19:43 AM · #14
I did some research for this one, and I learned quite a bit. I am hoping people use the photogs name in the title, it'll "force" me to learn even more, cause I will have to go look alot of them up, I'm sure.
01/24/2006 01:46:41 PM · #15
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

The point would be so they could look it up. You have nothing to lose, and possibly much to gain.


What if they look up the photogs work and feel your photo aint a decent tribute. eg You've been influenced by their work and used it as a starting point, but someone else might not necessarily link the photos. Especially if they don't have a really distinct style. I don't want lots of comments saying ' i've looked them up and can't see where you're coming from', but neither do i want comments 'dnmc, who the hell are you attributing anyway?'
01/24/2006 01:52:21 PM · #16
I haven't entered this one but am voting, if the photogs nameis not in the title I feel that there will not be a valid refence, No name means a much lower score 1or 2 maybe
01/24/2006 01:58:58 PM · #17
give a hint, or list their name. anything u want but stop discussing it and just do it.

look if u did a great job, voters may still vote u down for what ever they please...mayb they don't even like the person u chose to mymic's style, then u are screwed tillthe next voter...

does anyone see what i'm getting at?

voters are voters they are so random and spratic that it does not matter to them half the time. and most of the time they don't seem to put much thought into their voting they just do it to get it done.

i would say to ever1 aim for the dumbest of the dumb and put the photogs. name in the title that way they at least know and have a reference. b/c there are alot of greats and ppl. may not even know the 1 i'm going with. so a look up might be nessary for them then they will see it.

have a good 1 and don't worry more than u have ta.

_bran(i havn't even taken my shot yet, juts set it up in my head. but thats how _ would have done it so i'm on track)do_
01/24/2006 02:04:34 PM · #18
The Title of the challenge is "Tribute".

If I'm not told who the photo is a tribute to, then it must be DNMC and it will get 3 or less.

Brett

Message edited by author 2006-01-24 14:07:06.
01/24/2006 02:14:41 PM · #19
Originally posted by kiwinick:

I haven't entered this one but am voting, if the photogs nameis not in the title I feel that there will not be a valid refence, No name means a much lower score 1or 2 maybe


I'm with KiwiNick. While I'm not going to DNMC entries without names in the title, the 8-10 scores are going to be excellent emulations of photographers. Since I pretty well could only recognize an Ansel Adams and maybe one or two others, you had best be telling me who you are trying to emulate to get that top vote. (Feel free to skip Ansel's name as far as my vote goes.)
01/24/2006 02:16:44 PM · #20
Originally posted by turdave:

... So I probably just won't vote in this one unless most people decide to use their name in the title so I can look at their work when voting.


And if the name IS in the title what are you going to do to look it up, use Google or something?

I think that's quite time consuming and I really don't see many people doing this while voting. JMO of course. ;^)
01/24/2006 02:20:25 PM · #21
Originally posted by KiwiPix:

The Title of the challenge is "Tribute".

If I'm not told who the photo is a tribute to, then it must be DNMC and it will get 3 or less.

Brett


Well, I guess to balance things out I'll vote down (3 or less) any photo that DOES have a name in the title. ;^)
01/24/2006 02:26:35 PM · #22
I think you're much more likely to be penalized for not including a name, than for including one. If I can't figure out who the inspiration is, I can't give the photo a high score.
01/24/2006 02:29:40 PM · #23
Here's a cut-n-paste of my reply to another thread, starting with DrAchoo's comments....

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

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OK, I have officially entered and I predict my lowest score ever. Not because it's rushed or not good (it's niether), but because it's a) easy and b) not "DPC". However, I think it's an excellent take on a photographer and I guess this is to prove to myself that I don't care about the scores as much as I sometimes think I do.

Here's to hoping anyway...

Originally posted by macpapas:

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I'm in the same boat - I expect my lowest score as the picture is definitely not DPC (but very much inspired by a particular photographer, and pretty darn close to their imagery (IMO)). I have decided to include the "inspired by" photographer's name in the title. A 5sec search of the web will provide numerous examples of their work as well as descriptions of their style - anyone who spends those 5sec's will understand the picture.

Here's my vow to the challenge entrants - during voting, if I do not know the photographer your picture is inspired by, I will not vote on your picture until I have done some quick research on the photographer. If you did not include the photographer's name in the title, then I will vote solely on the merits of the picture itself. Some may argue that I should do that anyway (i.e., "vote solely on the merits of the picture itself"), but "my" interpretation of the challenge is that this is not just a free study, and some foresight and attempts to convey a particular photographer's style should have been made. I suspect I will be taking some time to vote on this one. :-)
01/24/2006 02:34:30 PM · #24
But don't you think that one person's view of a correct interpretation (via a tribute) could be entirely different than your own? Say you mention a photographer's name in the title and you've based your tribute off the styles you've seen - how do you know the person casting a vote is going to get the same interpretation? If the voter does go out of the way to Google or lookup the photographer, how do you know what they'll see, and therefore base their opinion on. It's almost like you should state the photographer and 2 or 3 photo ref's to make sure people look at the correct examples.

Kind of danged if you do, danged if you don't.
01/24/2006 02:50:59 PM · #25
Originally posted by glad2badad:

But don't you think that one person's view of a correct interpretation (via a tribute) could be entirely different than your own? Say you mention a photographer's name in the title and you've based your tribute off the styles you've seen - how do you know the person casting a vote is going to get the same interpretation? If the voter does go out of the way to Google or lookup the photographer, how do you know what they'll see, and therefore base their opinion on. It's almost like you should state the photographer and 2 or 3 photo ref's to make sure people look at the correct examples.

Kind of danged if you do, danged if you don't.


Can't disagree with that commentary at all…I am speaking from my own personal bias. I have chosen a rather obscure photographer who's work I find daring and interesting. I like my entry - on its own, it's "ok", but it will flop if one does not do a quick search on the web to see some of this photographer's work. A quick scan will hopefully show the connection between my image and the photographer's style, which will hopefully illicit an "oh wow!" response.

Coming from this personal bias, all I can say is I will try to do the same in return. If I am not familiar with the selected photographers' work, I pledge to not vote on the image until I have at least attempted to review some of their work. That's all I'm saying - it will not perfect, but I will try. As alluded to in my original response above, I do not expect others to do this, I do not expect others to "get" my image, and I do not expect to score very high. However, if I get one comment where someone "gets" it and says "nice work" - it will be worth the effort. :-) Not to mention, this challenge will be a great educational tool for me to research and view the works of some well-regarded/famous photographers - no harm ever comes from trying to educated! :-)
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