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01/12/2006 09:54:43 PM · #1
I'm taking a 35mm photography class, and our 1st assignment is a what I think a called a pictogram? But anyway, It's wher you place something on photo paper and expose it to light.

Just wondering if anyone has any ideal, or maybe even sample?
01/12/2006 10:02:41 PM · #2
Did this last year in photo one...
it creates a cool affect if you take something like a clear bottle and fill it with somehting which is also transparent. I used a thing of liquid ice things. Its really fun to experiment wiht different things though,

enjoy !!

-Dan
01/12/2006 10:05:37 PM · #3
Very cool, I have heard a lot of people say to use clear stuff, so maybe I can print a picture on transparency paper?
01/12/2006 10:19:51 PM · #4
i have some let me get them and scan for you :)
01/12/2006 10:23:53 PM · #5
I would definately mess around with 'clearish' things that will transmit different amounts of light. Could make for an interesting multitonal image. Things that transmit light in a textured manner could also be interesting. Some kind of screen or grid or loosely woven fabric or somthing like that.
01/12/2006 10:25:39 PM · #6
well crap - i can find my test strips from my first film class but i can't find my photograms grr.I'll keep looking

Anywas they areawesome and a lot of fun.
The things dont have to be transparent either. I have done them compeltely opaque things you just have to expose for a few minutes.
01/12/2006 10:30:25 PM · #7
Thank u guys, my mind is racing with ideals now.

mesmeraj if you can find those photos great, I don't want to take up your time.

loosely woven fabric, great ideal!!!
01/12/2006 10:41:07 PM · #8
One of the best examples I have seen used a bunch of feathers. Different sizes and shapes. Some laying flat, some curled, some piled on top of each other.... Let your imagination run wild, and have fun.
01/12/2006 11:24:04 PM · #9
When I took Photo 1 back in the 80s they were called photograms, not pictograms. Probably the most famous photographer who used this technique alot was Man Ray (Google him). Alot of the items around the darkroom such as developing reels, grain focuers, loupes, etc make great items. I also find that feathers are very interesting. Be sure to post some of your results for all to see
01/12/2006 11:39:49 PM · #10
I've had nice results with intricate jewellry;)
01/13/2006 02:52:57 AM · #11
It has to be something that has a fair bit of transparency in it - hence the suggestions like bottles, intricate jewellry (which would have gaps for light to get through) and so on. Large solid objects will be distinctly boring.

Another suggestion - try a petri dish or other shallow clear container, put some water in it, and drop some streaks of food colouring in. Swish it just a tiny bit so you get streaks, but not lots of it dissolving into the water.

Fragments of lace might be interesting. Or scatter some of the stars and other shapes that scrapbookers and other crafty type use to decorate pages. Or both? (Keeping in mind the principle "less is more")

Thin slices of fruit or vegetables? Tomato, starfruit, kiwifruit or cucumber would all be good choices. Carrots and bananas probably wouldn't be - unless you could slice the carrots VERY thinly. Or do carrot strips with a vegetable peeler and drop them onto the paper so they make a sort of knot shape.
01/13/2006 09:40:01 AM · #12
Thank you guy so very much!!!!!!

I'm going to look at some of Mann Rays photo, and get some more idel.

paddles, Every last one of those sound like GREAT ideals. I'm going to have like 100 sample to turn in. The petri dish with water I think is going to be my favorite. Thank so much

I will post my results next week, it's a nite class, onlyon thrusday :(
Forgive me if I bug you again for assignment two :)

01/13/2006 09:43:52 AM · #13
The quintessential object for this kind of project is a lightbulb.
01/15/2006 02:28:59 PM · #14
Flowers are beautiful to play with, as well as feathers, playing with the constrast. If you've got negatives from anything put them in the tray in the enlarger and play about with that, I used negatives of my sister in snow. Its also great practice for when you print them after your given cameras to play with.

First post, I hope it is a useful one.
01/19/2006 11:06:53 PM · #15
First off--Thank you every one who help with this project---

Clevon- I didn't get to do the negtive my self put I suggested it to someone else in the class and it turned out great.

BobsterLobster- This was the most disapointing one. Not because it didn't work but becuase...I FORGOT THE LIGHT... I was so mad at my self. I even went out and bought differant sizes and types. Got clear ones and soft one, really thought this was a good I ideal and was totally stoked about it. Maybe if I have some time at the end of class I can do another one. I hope so. Sorry I let you down :(

Paddles- What great Ideals. I was very excited about the water and food coloring ideal, But maybe I just did it wrong. I couldn't for the life of me get the swirls to show up. But this did win "Best ideal" in class. Every one thought that it was cool. I'll try harder next time. I did However used alot of scapbooking. And as for the fruit, Thank for the tip, I was starving by time I finished. Yes Paddles I ate the fruit. I'm sorry. But they were so thin and delicious. :)

Amber- I did do one with a braclet, I didn't have much jewellry that nite. I only go out like that on Sat. :)

kearock and mesmarji- I really hope that you have found your strip by know, If not call me I'll come over and give you a hand finding them. thank you very much. I think that the things that were opaque turned out better then clear stuff.

Hyperfocal and Baxter- I used i few feathers in a couple of them and wish that I have themed one around nothing but feathers. They turned out so good. Thanx

IEnjoyHam- I enjoy ham too. Mostly honey baked ham company...UMMMM. Thank for the ideals I wrote up there ^. :) That my bottle water thing didn't work right, but was the best ideal in class.

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01/20/2006 09:49:10 AM · #16
~bump~ so that every one that posted sees it
01/20/2006 03:06:14 PM · #17
Sorry, I just noticed this...
I did an evening class a few years back and one of our assignments was also to create some photograms...
Some of my class members blew me away in other assignments but my photograms I think were the strongest.
They key is to choose subjects that have a degree of opacity and therefore create some interesting shades as the light passes through and to place them not flat on the paper but at various distances.
For example, I had a cut-glass tumbler, some semi-transparent gift wrap ribbon with a wire edge that I was able to form into a large spiral that I lay across the paper, some opaque Christmas ornaments and also I printed some poems and related logos onto very thin paper, ripped them so that the edges were uneven and placed them on the paper, the light went through but in strange ways.
I also gained a lot by researching photograms on the web - I had to sort through a lot of kiddy trash (solid scissors etc) but found some astonishing stuff.
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