Down with SC...Give Members Power!!!

01/09/2006 07:42:55 PM · #1

I think the site council should be completely revamped. I think the members should be voted in by a majority vote from the community that they serve. Any other method of doing it is an outrage as far as I'm concerned!

I think we need more members on the site council who are FOR the community and not for THEMSELVES.

I think there need to be CLEAR AND DEFINED rules and regulations, much clearer and not open for interpretation than the current rulset, for all aspects of this site including, but not limited to disqualifications, what can and cannot be cloned out, and what content is suitable and what content is not for the forums.

I'm tired of seeing people get robbed of ribbons or people not allowed to post their feelings because some members of the site council disagreed with their methods or their posts...especially when it IS ALLOWED for some members, and NOT ALLOWED for others.

01/09/2006 07:45:28 PM · #2

I think you should have to be at least 22 years old to be a member of the site council. Most people under that is just too young and immature in my opinion.

I think there should be a seperate SPAM forum just so people can type up their SPAM.

I think elections for site council members should be held once a year when their term is up...and they should be voted on, and nominated by, ALL paying members.

BADDBOYY21

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 80-400mm f/4.5-5.6D ED VR

01/09/2006 07:50:09 PM · #3

Yeah...I think people should vote on site council appointments also. That way the "good ol boy" network will no longer function here.

01/09/2006 07:50:27 PM · #4

NOTE: the site council selectively edited this post, among others to shift the truth. Apparently, the poster I was responding to, and quoting made an innapropriate, inflammatory post against me, which I quoted, and the site coucnil selectively edited it to erase that poster's thoughts, as has been done many times in this thread...it's not even worth reading anymore, all main points are lost when such editing takes place.

Never did I ask for MORE POWER FOR MYSELF. I asked for more power for ALL members, you included. Why can't you vote for the members of site council, why aren't you entitled to say who represents your community?

I know I'm combative, and yes I do emphasize the drama, but I certainly do not cry. As far as being unpleasant, that's your opinion...

My name is David or Dave...hence the signature that I have. You can't possibly know much about me if you do not even know my name.

Message edited by ClubJuggle - Removed reference to deleted post.

Message edited by author 2006-01-10 08:38:05.

BADDBOYY21

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 80-400mm f/4.5-5.6D ED VR

01/09/2006 07:51:46 PM · #5

Originally posted by KiwiPix:

Give Members like you power? Never.

This affirms my beliefs that site council is on a POWER trip.

frisca

Nikon D70

01/09/2006 07:52:02 PM · #6

we don't discriminate based on age.

rex

Canon PowerShot SD780

01/09/2006 07:52:42 PM · #7

Brett I can't belive that was posted. I have reported it.

frisca

Nikon D70

01/09/2006 07:54:08 PM · #8

Originally posted by BADDBOYY21:

Originally posted by KiwiPix:
Give Members like you power? Never.

This affirms my beliefs that site council is on a POWER trip.

How? To have authority doesn't mean its a power trip. And to the OP: Can you please outline how you feel each and every member is individually out for him or herself? I'm insulted by your insinuation. I have gained nothing from being on Site Council except a sense that I am helping to build a positive community. Can you say the same?

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

01/09/2006 07:54:08 PM · #9

Originally posted by frisca:

we don't discriminate based on age.

I don't consider it discrimination. I consider it a requirement. Just like the president of the United States needs to be a certain age. Why can't some 18-year old punk be the president? Is that discrimination?

Konador

Canon EOS-500D Rebel T1i

01/09/2006 07:54:35 PM · #10

Originally posted by dpaull:

Never did I ask for MORE POWER FOR MYSELF.

From here:

Originally posted by dpaull:

I would like to officially nominiate myself as the main member of the s/c...no, seriously, I'm not kidding.

Konador

Canon EOS-500D Rebel T1i

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

01/09/2006 07:55:45 PM · #11

Originally posted by dpaull:

Originally posted by frisca:
we don't discriminate based on age.

I don't consider it discrimination. I consider it a requirement. Just like the president of the United States needs to be a certain age. Why can't some 18-year old punk be the president? Is that discrimination?

Hey, punk was far before my time :P

Peleng 8mm f/3.5 Fisheye MC In M42 Mount

01/09/2006 07:56:20 PM · #12

Originally posted by frisca:

I'm not going to waste time digging up every little accusation I can find. Basically, I see accusations flying all the time. Whether they are true or not, I have no idea. Just as I have been deemed by many as a lot of things, they are yet to be proven.

I don't see a problem with holding an election. What can it hurt? If you deserve your position, and act accordingly, you will be voted in and reinstated yearly.

Matthew

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

01/09/2006 07:57:33 PM · #13

Originally posted by dpaull:

I think you should have to be at least 22 years old to be a member of the site council. Most people under that is just too young and immature in my opinion

How about making that 25...

BADDBOYY21

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 80-400mm f/4.5-5.6D ED VR

01/09/2006 07:57:46 PM · #14

Whats wrong with a little democracy? Or is DPC designed to communistic?

Message edited by author 2006-01-09 19:58:06.

01/09/2006 07:58:38 PM · #15

Originally posted by Konador:

From here:

A) that was a joke, hence the 'not kidding, seriously' part.
B) in all honesty, I think I would do good, because I would give the power back to the community.
C) I believe it is not allowed to quote context from previous posts as you have done here. I have had posts deleted before for doing just that and not a single thing more. But I bet yours will slide for some unforseen interpretation of the rule.

01/09/2006 07:58:58 PM · #16

Originally posted by legalbeagle:

25 works, if that's what people want.

Gordon

RIM BlackBerry Curve

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

01/09/2006 08:03:04 PM · #17

Originally posted by dpaull:

I think you should have to be at least 22 years old to be a member of the site council. Most people under that is just too young and immature in my opinion.

I agree, but it should be at least 26. Anyone 25 or under is far too impulsive and hot headed for such responsibility. They'd probably start random threads pandering to their own personal biases and other nonsense.

zxaar

01/09/2006 08:03:22 PM · #18

i do not see anythign wrong if someone thinks he is competent.

Originally posted by Konador:

Originally posted by dpaull:
Never did I ask for MORE POWER FOR MYSELF.

From here:

Originally posted by dpaull:
I would like to officially nominiate myself as the main member of the s/c...no, seriously, I'm not kidding.

or you want to say that being member of SC makes someone powerful (here it means one who tries to benefit himself)

jbsmithana

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 12-24mm f/4.0G IF-ED

01/09/2006 08:04:09 PM · #19

Ok - I'm over twenty five.

I vote to re-elect all current site council members and give them a raise.

welcher

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

01/09/2006 08:04:18 PM · #20

This is kind of like our own little American Revolution, 'cept we're clearly lacking in men of the character of Jefferson and Washington in this revolt.

Tokina AF 12-24mm f/4.0 AT-X Pro DX

01/09/2006 08:04:51 PM · #21

Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by dpaull:
I think you should have to be at least 22 years old to be a member of the site council. Most people under that is just too young and immature in my opinion.

I agree, but it should be at least 26. Anyone 25 or under is far too impulsive and hot headed for such responsibility. They'd probably start random threads pandering to their own personal biases and other nonsense.

Doubtfully so. This post is for the community. If you don't think so, then you're entitled to your opinion, but I can say truthfully that the intent of this thread is NOT to empower myself, but to open the eyes of the community and to give back.

I am sick of seeing so many people getting shafted because of interpretation. It's time to stop complaining and get something done!

Beagleboy

Canon EOS-30D

01/09/2006 08:06:59 PM · #22

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

01/09/2006 08:07:54 PM · #23

Originally posted by BADDBOYY21:

Whats wrong with a little democracy? Or is DPC designed to communistic?

It is an absolute monarchy (or oligarchy, since we have two owners). The SC and everyone else is here completely at the pleasure of Drew and Langdon, aka Challenging Technologies LLC.

If they decide they've heard enough of this carping about what most consider the best photography site out there, they can take it down and replace the index page with a simple "This site is no longer available" message and there's not a d****d thing you or I or anyone else can do about it except complain in some other forum.

We have no right to remove pictures get a refund, or anything -- it's all in the TOS and User Agreement which you agreed-to when you registered.

Now, this site has always been quite receptive to user suggestions, but I for one am getting tired of hearing everyone suggest "necessary" changes because things don't go their way. Part of learning to participate in an artistic community is to withstand adversity. The rules are all available to anyone before they commit themselves even to signing up, much less participating. If you don't like the way the neighborhood looks, why move in, unless you're on a mission to liberate the downtrodden from the iron heel of a few volunteers ...

Message edited by author 2006-01-09 20:08:36.