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10/21/2002 02:19:16 PM · #1 |
I sense a trend here... every week a little more edgy than the other. I'm beginning to think next month I'll have to give a credit card number to vote.
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10/21/2002 02:22:33 PM · #2 |
well, that could at least have something to do with illusions relating to visual 'size'...
or something.
ahem. cough. cough. ...
* This message has been edited by the author on 10/21/2002 2:21:44 PM. |
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10/21/2002 02:42:03 PM · #3 |
Hey Mag, is a delusion an illusion in the eye of the delusional? <grin>
BTW Bar, those are NUDES not NEKKID people <wink>
* This message has been edited by the author on 10/21/2002 2:40:48 PM.
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10/21/2002 03:26:14 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by Seeker:
Hey Mag, is a delusion an illusion in the eye of the delusional? <grin>
BTW Bar, those are NUDES not NEKKID people <wink>
They are not NUDES... they are artistic studies of the human form ;)
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10/21/2002 03:31:31 PM · #5 |
Well, i was impressed with the "Oppression" photo. She was, um, an interesting artistic human form? :-)
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Originally posted by Seeker:
[i]Hey Mag, is a delusion an illusion in the eye of the delusional? <grin>
BTW Bar, those are NUDES not NEKKID people <wink>
They are not NUDES... they are artistic studies of the human form ;)
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10/21/2002 03:37:11 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by paganini:
Well, i was impressed with the "Oppression" photo. She was, um, an interesting artistic human form? :-)
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
[i]Originally posted by Seeker:
[i]Hey Mag, is a delusion an illusion in the eye of the delusional? <grin>
BTW Bar, those are NUDES not NEKKID people <wink>
They are not NUDES... they are artistic studies of the human form ;)
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Well, I don't really consider that photo as one falling into this particular category :) Bondage and S&M and such are slightly different... It's also not really good practice to discuss current challenge photos so I'll stop now :)
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10/21/2002 04:56:26 PM · #7 |
Now wouldn't THAT be a great theme for DPChallenge.... artistic studies of the human form.
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10/21/2002 06:59:31 PM · #8 |
| BTW kos, your apple skin just blew my mind! |
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10/21/2002 07:36:38 PM · #9 |
Hi Aelith
Thanks! To be honest, I can't beleive that my photo would even shock! It's a basic nude shot with a twist. :o)
Some had the nerve to call it porn! Now that's insulting!
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10/21/2002 09:02:30 PM · #10 |
| lol, more than just a nude in my opinion. It was hard to tell do you or your model have a beard? |
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10/21/2002 09:43:47 PM · #11 |
Well, I guess I might as well say it or bust.
I've seen some good *art* type of nudes and some that are plain porn or nasty. All girls or a man peeing or one in a lounge chair.
This week...I am happy to see a butt ! ok I said it...shoot me ~shrug~
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10/21/2002 09:53:12 PM · #12 |
Nudity is part of art. It's been there for ages and artists alike have been inspired by it in their creative skills, may it be photography, sculpture, painting, drawing, cinema, writing, etc.
I'm personally glad to see some people taking chances on DPChallenge.com trying to push the enveloppe forward. I'm not saying all photos must contain nudity. But frankly, people must understand it is a normal thing and it can be used in a creative manner.
No porn at all has graced the html pages of DPChallenge and it will surelly not happen either. So let's try to be open minded to what is actually being created and posted here, shall we?
Martin |
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10/22/2002 12:15:08 AM · #13 |
I am frowing upon this.
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Originally posted by paganini:
[i]Well, i was impressed with the "Oppression" photo. She was, um, an interesting artistic human form? :-)
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
[i]Originally posted by Seeker:
[i]Hey Mag, is a delusion an illusion in the eye of the delusional? <grin>
BTW Bar, those are NUDES not NEKKID people <wink>
They are not NUDES... they are artistic studies of the human form ;)
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Well, I don't really consider that photo as one falling into this particular category :) Bondage and S&M and such are slightly different... It's also not really good practice to discuss current challenge photos so I'll stop now :)
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* This message has been edited by the author on 10/22/2002 12:14:02 AM.
* This message has been edited by the author on 10/22/2002 12:14:25 AM. |
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10/22/2002 01:02:40 AM · #14 |
I think the nude shots should be judged not on how we'd view them in Sunday school but on how artistically they accomplish the challenge. One of the shots this week is really pretty incredible, but then there are others which aren't so good. I try to stay away from personal bias, and any bias against nudity is probably personal (even if it is reflected in our society). Vote on the photograph, not on whether it could be turned into a color-by-number.
Martin |
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10/22/2002 04:12:46 AM · #15 |
Ive not got an opinion either way on the nudes, I vote at work, but I take care to vote on the dodgy ones when no-one else is in the office, mostly to just remove any posibility of embarrasment.
I do think that sooner or later the administrators are going to have to take a definite view on this issue, particularly as a few rather extreme images have started appearing recently. |
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10/22/2002 04:48:56 AM · #16 |
I find interesting the us of the words "extreme images" to refer to some of the images that "recently appeared". It just goes to show that what is extreme to one is quite obviously not so extreme to another.
I for one wonder something: what is the purpose of this web site? Is this a web site to teach kids photography or a place for photographers to be challenged in their creativity in the context of a contest? I think this is the real question to ask the administrators of this site.
Because if the current images that people refer to as being "edgy" are considered "extreme", then we are facing a serious potential censorship problem in the creative process of photography. Because seriously, these photographs in question are nowhere near "extreme".
Martin
aka. DrJOnes
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10/22/2002 05:04:26 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by DrJOnes:
Is this a web site to teach kids photography or a place for photographers to be challenged in their creativity in the context of a contest?
Both. It's a public place and you can't stop either group of people contributing.
This is not some club for accomplished photographers, it's a place where anyone at all can come to learn and have fun.
There are several 'under-age' people who contribute to this site and others who have their children's help when voting on the images. (BTW I am neither!)
Cheers,
Tim
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10/22/2002 07:07:56 AM · #18 |
I find it funny that if you think images of nude women in demeaning positions to be a bit objectionable you are labeled a prude or handicapped by religous conviction or it's "your problem".
Actually, I think if a photographer finds himself having to take these kinds of photos its a lot like the musicians I knew back in college who had to drive nails in their hands and eat glass to get their message across. Their musical talent should have been enough to encourage people to listen without all the circus tricks if they were any good.
It's not risque anymore in most photographers opinion around the world. It seems sorta cliche and an easy way out of more difficult nude photography to most photographic students and schools of thought.
However, I sorta like the photo variety though and if the women posing in these photos liked it...more power to them I say :-)
But then again I laugh at Beavis and Butthead too >:-D |
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10/22/2002 07:40:39 AM · #19 |
And God created Adam and Eve and said: heck, they look great!
Nuff said.... ;o) |
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10/22/2002 10:14:35 AM · #20 |
| Pornography is in the eye of the beholder. But in the USA the law says that it is defined by "community standards." There are communities where some of the material submitted to DPC is indeed considered to be porn. That being the case, DPC might be held liable for knowingly allowing access to underage individules.Maybe we need to develope some community standards of our own... |
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10/22/2002 10:42:37 AM · #21 |
Or maybe an alternative "private challenge" where you must be granted access into? That could be fun! Woot!
* This message has been edited by the author on 10/22/2002 10:40:59 AM.
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10/22/2002 10:59:18 AM · #22 |
| Cool! DPC2-The Digital Porn Challenge. Where do I sign up? |
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10/22/2002 11:01:16 AM · #23 |
For those who are concerned about "underage" participants of this site.
How about parents of the above mentioned deciding whether they can participate or not.
As most people I know would not have a problem with any of the images on this site
to be shown to their children (with the appropriate supervision).
Bottom line, YOU as a parent guardian, etc., should be involved in making sure what your
children do and see, and not the administrators of this site, other sites, TV stations, radio, etc.
Dimitrii.
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10/22/2002 11:08:20 AM · #24 |
| In a perfect world you would be right on Dimitrii, But I don't live in a perfect world, I live in the USA, where laws don't always follow along lines of reason.Those who present images are held responsible for those who view them. |
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10/22/2002 11:14:34 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by rapsiii3:
In a perfect world you would be right on Dimitrii, But I don't live in a perfect world, I live in the USA, where laws don't always follow along lines of reason.Those who present images are held responsible for those who view them.
I seriously doubt that, any of the images on this site are in violation of the First Amendment.
As I also reside in the US, and am somewhat familiar with the laws on the subject; I doubt anyone here could be held ligally reponsible for the images presented.
More over, the site could easily be moved off-shore and then the US laws do not apply.
Dimitrii. |
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