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05/23/2003 12:31:24 AM · #1
I wanna try something.

Below I am posting 3 critiques that I have done. I'd like to get some feedback on them. Is there anything I could be doing better? Anything obvious I'm missing? Details I'm flat-out getting wrong? Am I too harsh or too soft?

Also, anyone else who would like feedback on their own critiques, please feel free to start a similar thread to this one. Please do not add your request to this thread, however, as it will get confusing which replies belong to whom.

Critiques to follow,
-Terry

Note: In each of the below posts, you can click on the thumbnail to be linked to the full-size image.

Message edited by author 2003-05-23 00:37:32.
05/23/2003 12:31:35 AM · #2
Abled - MarkRob

Comment:
*Critique Club*

FIRST IMPRESSION: THought it was a bicycle tire until I noticed the outside part of the wheel. Once I saw that the hand made sense.

CHALLENGE: Meets the challenge.

COMPOSITION: Composition is excellent. I wonder if shooting from a little bit to the side might have helped the voters realize what this was though. I don't think the voters were able to get enough context in the short time the average voter typically spends on a photograph.

TECHNICAL: Technical aspects are excellent. I like the short depth of field.

CONCLUSION: A very good image, but one that I think would need to be approached slightly differently for the voters to grasp. Remember, most voters spend only a few seconds per image when voting.

Thanks for sharing and good luck in future challenges!


05/23/2003 12:33:11 AM · #3
Road Trip - drdab99

Comment:
*Critique Club*

FIRST IMPRESSION: A bit confusing, took me a little while to get it, but worth the effort.

CHALLENGE: Meets the challenge.

COMPOSITION: I think the composition of this shot is excellent. I like the angle you took it at. If you had excluded the map, the shot would have bee too confusing; included any more of it and it would have been boring. This is just enough to provide context. The reflection overlaying the shot of the road in the background

TECHNICAL: Exposure, depth of field and color are all appropriate.

CONCLUSION: An excellent shot, and it's a shame this didn't score better. Unfortinately I think the main thing that hurt your score is the fact that the viewer needs to look at this for a good bit of time to fully understand it, and many voters do not take that kind of time when voting. I personally feel this is an excellent shot that deserved to place much higher.

Thanks for sharing and good luck in future challenges!
05/23/2003 12:35:01 AM · #4
Don't Forget Me - Petremi

Comment:
*Critique Club*

FIRST IMPRESSION: Quite unnatural color.

CHALLENGE: Meets the challenge.

COMPOSITION: Composition is reasonably good, though it might have been stronger if you included less of the foreground.

TECHNICAL: The most striking technical issue in this photograph is the unnatural color. It appears the white balance may have been set incorrectly. If it is set to a manual setting, perhaps returning to automatic would have helped; if it is in automatic then perhaps setting a custom white-balance would have strengthened the image. Depth of field, exposure, etc. all appear appropriate for the shot.

CONCLUSION: A good entry. More attention to the color probably would have been the single most effective way to increase your score.

Thanks for sharing and good luck in future challenges!

Message edited by author 2003-05-23 00:41:12.
05/23/2003 01:13:45 AM · #5
Some extra things you could mention are lighting and background. Even if there isn't a problem with them, it would also be beneficial to the photographer to know that what they did worked.
Also, focus is something that is good to mention even if there is not a problem with it.
Don't be afraid to mention individual "technical aspects" and why it APPEALS to you.
Still some excellent critiquing. It shows that you are actually looking at the photo and taking the time to make unique comments about each one. I think that people appreciate that most. ~Heather~
05/23/2003 01:32:07 AM · #6
I agree that I tend to include more specific technical comments some times. Sometimes this is as a compliment, sometimes as a suggestion of something to try.

Also, I tend to make a short comment about the use of a border and the title - particularly if I really like or dislike them.

Having said that you probably critique the image from a non-technical standpoint much better than I do. I like the idea of a "first impression" section - I'll try to add that next time.
05/23/2003 04:48:25 AM · #7
CJ - I generally look at these things when evaluating composition, although I may or may not mention each of them for a given critique - subject, background, lighting, framing, angle, and finally balance. I think that covers most of the bases for most of the pictures anyway. My composition is most of the time the longest part of my critique. But unlike yours, I don't always mention challenge worthiness. Some of the lighting, framing, angle stuff also shows up in the technical part, but I think those things are crucial to the composition. I think the other parts are pretty good as is... concise and accurate. Not that I'm any kind of expert.....

That's my opinion Mr. President... - BoB

Message edited by author 2003-05-23 04:49:25.
05/23/2003 01:55:48 PM · #8
I think your premise is positive and well intentioned. Your stance here, in your function as a critic, is very cautious.

I wonder, if it would be more beneficial for the quality of the work to question the artistic merit of a shot. After all, there is a strong explorative aspect to what we (and you) do here. Ideally, your critical 'style' could, IMO, be more inclusive of those elements of the creative process, which fuel our interest and determine our particular choices. Of course, there is no critical codec as there isn't one for the creative process. Yet, why not 'participate' in the process?

When I look at a photograph, these primary questions come to mind:

1. Am I seeing something I haven't seen before? -If yes, what is it?
2. Does the photo 'move' me in any way at all? -If yes, what, specifically, is it that caused this?
3. Is there an exhilerating quality about this piece (aka 'wow' effect)? -How was it achieved?
4. Is the world richer for this piece?
5. What did I learn, that I did not know before?
6. Is there anything redundant in this piece (anything that, if left out, could increase the impact)?

The bottom line is sincerity.






05/23/2003 10:19:35 PM · #9
> bump
05/24/2003 03:44:29 AM · #10
I like your references to 'how to increase your score' - that's what a lot of people find most puzzling here, and those who've been around for a while have had time to work it out to an extent.

Ed

Message edited by author 2003-05-24 20:46:25.
05/24/2003 07:29:03 PM · #11
> bump
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