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03/01/2005 07:55:50 PM · #1 |
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03/01/2005 07:56:30 PM · #2 |
| Hee hee, I don't wanna become Ansel, he's dead! |
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03/01/2005 07:57:12 PM · #3 |
REALLY dumb, naive question (new to PS CS). How do "actions" install and actually work?
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03/01/2005 07:59:02 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by Kylie:
REALLY dumb, naive question (new to PS CS). How do "actions" install and actually work? |
Actions are just scripts that run a series of PS operations in a set order. You simply drag the action file to the actions menu and drop it there. Bang, it's installed. |
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03/01/2005 08:00:57 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Hee hee, I don't wanna become Ansel, he's dead! |
Oh flip! Thank goodness I didn't click play yet.
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03/01/2005 08:01:18 PM · #6 |
where do I unzip the file to?
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03/01/2005 08:04:14 PM · #7 |
Seems to me that Ansel Adams wasn't around when we got Adobe Photoshop. So I am going with the true spirit of the challenge. No editing. My entry will come straight out of the camera. The only thing I will do is "Save for web" because that is unavoidable.
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03/01/2005 08:05:59 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by rex07734:
Seems to me that Ansel Adams wasn't around when we got Adobe Photoshop. So I am going with the true spirit of the challenge. No editing. My entry will come straight out of the camera. The only thing I will do is "Save for web" because that is unavoidable. |
But he did a whole lot of darkroom processing so you could be cheating yourself out of a great picture as opposed to an ok image.
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03/01/2005 08:17:05 PM · #9 |
ok, I'm very confused. I can not figure out how to get the action set to come up in my photoshop program. I have downloaded it, saved to the desktop...now what? please please help me
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03/01/2005 08:17:42 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by Kylie:
REALLY dumb, naive question (new to PS CS). How do "actions" install and actually work? |
Actions are just scripts that run a series of PS operations in a set order. You simply drag the action file to the actions menu and drop it there. Bang, it's installed. |
Thank you! I thought that was the general idea, but haven't ever paid much attention until recently.
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03/01/2005 08:31:40 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by gi_joe05:
ok, I'm very confused. I can not figure out how to get the action set to come up in my photoshop program. I have downloaded it, saved to the desktop...now what? please please help me |
Make sure that you don't have photoshop on when doing this.
My computer>local>program files>photoshop>presets> drag and drop into the photoshop actions file.
Open Photoshop then:
Windows>Actions>Click on little arrow next to tool presets>look for the action and click on it.
Now it's available for use.
Message edited by author 2005-03-01 20:36:33.
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03/01/2005 08:35:29 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by rex07734:
Seems to me that Ansel Adams wasn't around when we got Adobe Photoshop. So I am going with the true spirit of the challenge. No editing. My entry will come straight out of the camera. The only thing I will do is "Save for web" because that is unavoidable. |
One of the biggest "criticisms" of Adams at the time was the degree to which he manipulated his images to represent "his vision" of the scene and not merely a documentary record. To submit an unedited photo "straight from the camera" is to work in a completely opposite fashion to Adams. His famous quote (approximately):
"The negative is the score, the print is the performance." |
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03/01/2005 08:38:46 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by rex07734:
Seems to me that Ansel Adams wasn't around when we got Adobe Photoshop. So I am going with the true spirit of the challenge. No editing. My entry will come straight out of the camera. The only thing I will do is "Save for web" because that is unavoidable. |
alright man........!!!!! a purest just like me....
only ansel had a hug darkroom and was in that at night and out with his camera by day so......
feel free to edit maybe if u want to look up his standured edits u could do the PS equivelent to them.
but if u want to go it with your mind great choise......ballzy.........
good luck i'm gessing it will be the least aultured image that will win and the best composed of those unaltered images to place 1st but i may be wrong as there are some great photoshope workers here.
_brand(is it magic or the click of a button)do_
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03/01/2005 08:39:29 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by rex07734:
Seems to me that Ansel Adams wasn't around when we got Adobe Photoshop. So I am going with the true spirit of the challenge. No editing. My entry will come straight out of the camera. The only thing I will do is "Save for web" because that is unavoidable. |
One of the biggest "criticisms" of Adams at the time was the degree to which he manipulated his images to represent "his vision" of the scene and not merely a documentary record. To submit an unedited photo "straight from the camera" is to work in a completely opposite fashion to Adams. His famous quote (approximately):
"The negative is the score, the print is the performance." |
Ansel Adams is definitely "The master of dodging and burning". |
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03/01/2005 08:40:06 PM · #15 |
What the General said; it's ALL about post-processing. Or 75% anyway; the other part is getting the correct exposure in the first place. But that's only step 1. Step 2 is the processing of the negative to express the previsualized tonal range, and step 3 is the manipulation of the print to achieve the previsualized image.
This is just the technical part of course. It also helps to have a good eye :-)
Robt.
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03/01/2005 08:47:09 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
This is just the technical part of course. It also helps to have a good eye :-)
Robt. |
Student: But isn't writing hard?
Author: No, it's quite easy really, you just sit at the table and write things down as they occur to you.
Student: But how do you get all those ideas?
Author: Ah, the occurring; now that's the hard part ... |
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03/01/2005 08:54:59 PM · #17 |
Please be aware that this particular Photoshop action is NOT legal for basic editing, because it uses other layer modes than "normal". It is, however, legal in advanced editing, which covers the Adams challenge.
Robt.
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03/01/2005 08:58:17 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
Please be aware that this particular Photoshop action is NOT legal for basic editing, because it uses other layer modes than "normal". It is, however, legal in advanced editing, which covers the Adams challenge.
Robt. |
not going to use it cause i would feel cheep but thanx ince i may in future advanced edit challenges
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03/01/2005 09:06:22 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by fotodude:
Originally posted by bear_music:
Please be aware that this particular Photoshop action is NOT legal for basic editing, because it uses other layer modes than "normal". It is, however, legal in advanced editing, which covers the Adams challenge.
Robt. |
not going to use it cause i would feel cheep but thanx ince i may in future advanced edit challenges |
If it makes you feel better, grab the action now and run it on some old picture, then look and see what it did, then replicate it by hand. It's just a tool. The end result depends on hand-balancing the various layers anyway, it has many options.
Robt.
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03/01/2005 09:20:05 PM · #20 |
is anyone really impressed by this?
i can make a similar image by dropping the sat out and upping the contrast. seems kind of a no-brainer...
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03/01/2005 09:22:21 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by the-O-ster:
is anyone really impressed by this?
i can make a similar image by dropping the sat out and upping the contrast. seems kind of a no-brainer...
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exactly.....i was just working with it
a not very impressed_brando_
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03/01/2005 09:31:58 PM · #22 |
Exactly. This is why it's not for "sale"; it's just some dude's automation of his workflow, something a lot of us do as a matter of course in Photoshop. But it's still useful, if you don't know how to do this stuff, because when it's all finished the layers are right there and you can see exactly what was done, and mess around with it, and LEARN.
If you already know how to do it, it's of course a no-brainer. But most people just desaturate their color shot from the menu and say "Look mom! B/W! Isn't that cool?"
Robt.
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03/01/2005 09:33:31 PM · #23 |
Some of these in combination have a great look. Try contrast + red.
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03/01/2005 09:42:06 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by bear_music:
If you already know how to do it, it's of course a no-brainer. But most people just desaturate their color shot from the menu and say "Look mom! B/W! Isn't that cool?" |
Thanks Robert. Yes, I posted this more for the not-a-genius-with-photoshop folks. If you're not impressed by it then it isn't really aimed at you. I'll be keeping it around for those times when I'm too lazy to do it manually or just want a quick impression of what a B&W will look like.
Mav, thanks for the tip. I'll give that a try.
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03/01/2005 09:47:51 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by orussell:
Originally posted by rex07734:
Seems to me that Ansel Adams wasn't around when we got Adobe Photoshop. So I am going with the true spirit of the challenge. No editing. My entry will come straight out of the camera. The only thing I will do is "Save for web" because that is unavoidable. |
But he did a whole lot of darkroom processing so you could be cheating yourself out of a great picture as opposed to an ok image. |
I read somewhere that Ansel said the negative was like the "score" and the photo print was the performance. My feeling exactly. A nice exposure only gets you so far, my clients pay for the post processing, the "print", too.
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