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04/20/2017 02:37:50 AM · #1
Sorry to be flogging a dead horse again but I couldn't let this be. I don't visit here much now but I did this morning and I was happy to see Don's posty ribbon thread, that led me to this wonderful image: Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_1198094.jpg then I realised just how far this site has moved away from photography, I mean how is it possible that a photo like that could receive a 4.5 ? finding that answer might help us save this place from it's inevitable decline into nothingness. Juste musing with my cornflakes.

04/20/2017 06:52:29 AM · #2
Total Votes: 74

The lower vote count in challenges now will make any image more sensitive to the low votes. So, besides the "it's not pretty vote"; another reason is that it took me a long time to figure out what this image is saying without the challenge description and the image title. I didn't vote (shame on me) but I probably would have given it a 5 and moved on at my first review. It might get a bump after on any second review.

Tim
04/20/2017 08:16:18 AM · #3
Originally posted by jagar:

I mean how is it possible that a photo like that could receive a 4.5 ?


Because it's not very good.
I gave it a 4, and I should probably have given it a 3, but I was feeling generous.
There is no real subject. There are a ton of distractions in the foreground, background, everywhere in between.
It just looks like a snapshot that doesn't give me any positive vibes.
04/20/2017 10:20:49 AM · #4
Originally posted by jagar:

...I realised just how far this site has moved away from photography, I mean how is it possible that a photo like that could receive a 4.5 ?

John, if that image exemplifies your definition of "photography", then DPC never HAS embraced it and thus we can't have moved away from it... Is it a wonderful image? YES! I gave it an 8. Is it the sort of image that resonates across all sorts of viewer psyches? Evidently not. Is it clearly responsive to the challenge "Emptiness"? For me, it's getting there, yes, but let's face it; that image is FULL of stuff to look at, details to appreciate, etc etc so in that sense it's almost as "not-empty" as you can get.

I don't think it's fair to ding an entire community because work like this doesn't float every voter's boat. That's why we are blessed to have Don and others like him, to keep us all aware of the gems that do float by in the underappreciated eddies of our collective experience. Might you consider being one of them, becoming a positive force again, instead of the mostly negative voice you have tended to be these past few years? It's not as if YOUR own very special brand of work went unappreciated here, after all...
04/21/2017 04:10:25 AM · #5
johns at a funny age like myself, but i am older and have a very tiny brain/mind
john is younger and has a large and brilliant brain/mind
04/21/2017 02:33:46 PM · #6
Originally posted by giantmike:

It just looks like a snapshot that doesn't give me any positive vibes.

snapshot is not a dirty word in my vocabulary. Photography may mean different things to different people. For me, seizing an opportunity and choosing is more important than setting up. Controlling the image does not vibe me as much.
04/21/2017 02:43:55 PM · #7
Originally posted by giantmike:

Originally posted by jagar:

I mean how is it possible that a photo like that could receive a 4.5 ?


Because it's not very good.
I gave it a 4, and I should probably have given it a 3, but I was feeling generous.
There is no real subject. There are a ton of distractions in the foreground, background, everywhere in between.
It just looks like a snapshot that doesn't give me any positive vibes.


You can't see the subject because you are looking for stereotypes, there are a ton of distracting elements bescause you are comparing it to stereotypes, it looks like a snapshot because you are looking for stereotypes and why does a photo need positive vibes?
This photo could easily be displayed in an exhibition, none of the front page images could, well not over here anyhow.
Just keep holding on until there is nothing left but sameness.

04/21/2017 02:58:59 PM · #8
Originally posted by jagar:

Originally posted by giantmike:

Originally posted by jagar:

I mean how is it possible that a photo like that could receive a 4.5 ?


Because it's not very good.
I gave it a 4, and I should probably have given it a 3, but I was feeling generous.
There is no real subject. There are a ton of distractions in the foreground, background, everywhere in between.
It just looks like a snapshot that doesn't give me any positive vibes.


You can't see the subject because you are looking for stereotypes, there are a ton of distracting elements bescause you are comparing it to stereotypes, it looks like a snapshot because you are looking for stereotypes and why does a photo need positive vibes?
This photo could easily be displayed in an exhibition, none of the front page images could, well not over here anyhow.
Just keep holding on until there is nothing left but sameness.


Don't worry, I think most stuff displayed in exhibition is crap too :)

I don't much care for most blank and white "street" style photography. Some is really good an appealing (in fact, much of your work falls into the appealing category). But a vast majority is simply boring to me.

It's ok, we can like different things :)
04/21/2017 10:17:52 PM · #9
omg, twins

Originally posted by Tiny:

johns at a funny age like myself, but i am older and have a very tiny brain/mind
john is younger and has a large and brilliant brain/mind
04/22/2017 07:57:57 AM · #10
Originally posted by giantmike:

Don't worry, I think most stuff displayed in exhibition is crap too :)

I don't much care for most blank and white "street" style photography. ... But a vast majority is simply boring to me.

I don't have as many strong opinions, but I do have some. For example, seeing the same image over and over again is boring to me. Showing technical superiority says a lot about the creator of an image, but not so much about the image itself. I am usually not interested in the the artist/craftsman but in the image in front of me. An image that is both intellectually challenging and emotionally engaging will get my highest appreciation (assuming I recognize the challenge). An image copies of which I have seen many times before is neither challenging nor engaging (to me). An image that delivers its message in multiple layers, that is open to other people interpretations makes a piece of art (to me anyhow).
04/22/2017 08:18:58 AM · #11
^^^^What Mita said^^^^
04/22/2017 08:25:20 AM · #12
Originally posted by skewsme:

omg, twins

Originally posted by Tiny:

johns at a funny age like myself, but i am older and have a very tiny brain/mind
john is younger and has a large and brilliant brain/mind


...one kept and one given away....
04/22/2017 12:31:18 PM · #13
Originally posted by mitalapo:



I don't have as many strong opinions, but I do have some. For example, seeing the same image over and over again is boring to me. Showing technical superiority says a lot about the creator of an image, but not so much about the image itself. I am usually not interested in the the artist/craftsman but in the image in front of me. An image that is both intellectually challenging and emotionally engaging will get my highest appreciation (assuming I recognize the challenge). An image copies of which I have seen many times before is neither challenging nor engaging (to me). An image that delivers its message in multiple layers, that is open to other people interpretations makes a piece of art (to me anyhow).


Agree. An opinion well expressed and shared by a lot of people. It does not mean superiority as it tends to be considered by vexed people but a strong point of view about art and its necessity.
Your image got a 9.33 from the commenters. To me it expressed perfectly the emptiness of our accelerated life. A perfect interpretation and translation of the challenge.
04/22/2017 04:41:07 PM · #14
Originally posted by jagar:

Originally posted by giantmike:

It just looks like a snapshot that doesn't give me any positive vibes.


You can't see the subject because you are looking for stereotypes, there are a ton of distracting elements bescause you are comparing it to stereotypes, it looks like a snapshot because you are looking for stereotypes and why does a photo need positive vibes?
This photo could easily be displayed in an exhibition, none of the front page images could, well not over here anyhow.
Just keep holding on until there is nothing left but sameness.


Originally posted by mitalapo:

Originally posted by giantmike:

It just looks like a snapshot that doesn't give me any positive vibes.

snapshot is not a dirty word in my vocabulary. Photography may mean different things to different people. For me, seizing an opportunity and choosing is more important than setting up. Controlling the image does not vibe me as much.


Thinking over these comments, I realized that those who depend on stereotypes, believe in the myth of the level playing field & so on, are of necessity very interested in getting others to participate in maintaining this status quo. Some others are interested in opportunity, choice, unexpected & unrepeatable photogenic moments, & are of necessity willing to let the status quo take care of itself.

To put it another way, sometimes we give a low vote to something we don't understand & sometimes we give a high vote. It all depends.

So, thank you.
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