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06/05/2016 08:42:37 PM · #51
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

I was overly broad in my statement, that's for sure. And it wasn't meant to be "official", certainly. I realize that there's useful discussion also taking place. But at the same time I have seen a lot of "what does the challenge REALLY mean?" verbiage over the years, and it drives me crazy. I'm all in favor of people educating each other on what Manet was really about. I'm a lot less in favor of people trying to develop a consensus on whether a still life (which Manet painted a lot of) is "acceptable" in this challenge, and so forth. I hate seeing threads that drive towards consensus on what's right (or wrong) in a given challenge.

But I'm sorry if I seemed to be stifling legitimate exploration of the World of Manet.


The thing is... the challenge description mentions snapshots and then goes on to say "take a photo inspired by the master"... so, quite seriously, it's hard to tell if this is meant as a challenge to be inspired by his "snapshots" or his whole body of work. And all the discussion in the world isn't going to clear that up. It's really too bad.
06/05/2016 08:56:09 PM · #52
I think the snapshot part was suggestive rather than definitive.

And here again I have problems with what seem to be the general concerns: the winning, as if there were a correct answer and the judging as if a correct answer was the point.

the point is what many have already done and shared: to look at the works and be inspired, to see if it can inform your work. now I just wish I could take my advice and never ever worry about the other end, the judging.

06/05/2016 09:04:41 PM · #53
Originally posted by tnun:

I think the snapshot part was suggestive rather than definitive.

And here again I have problems with what seem to be the general concerns: the winning, as if there were a correct answer and the judging as if a correct answer was the point.

the point is what many have already done and shared: to look at the works and be inspired, to see if it can inform your work. now I just wish I could take my advice and never ever worry about the other end, the judging.


" I think the snapshot part was suggestive rather than definitive.". Maybe so, but when I first read it I didn't think that.

FYI, I don't care if I win.. I just want to know what I should be looking for when I'm shooting... and when it comes time to vote, if i like the image I vote accordingly. I am very open to interpretation.
06/05/2016 09:07:55 PM · #54
Originally posted by PennyStreet:

Originally posted by tnun:

I think the snapshot part was suggestive rather than definitive.

And here again I have problems with what seem to be the general concerns: the winning, as if there were a correct answer and the judging as if a correct answer was the point.

the point is what many have already done and shared: to look at the works and be inspired, to see if it can inform your work. now I just wish I could take my advice and never ever worry about the other end, the judging.


" I think the snapshot part was suggestive rather than definitive.". Maybe so, but when I first read it I didn't think that.

FYI, I don't care if I win.. I just want to know what I should be looking for when I'm shooting... and when it comes time to vote, if i like the image I vote accordingly. I am very open to interpretation.


Edit to add: I guess I'm just old enough that if something isn't spelled out properly, it confuses me. I don't really care what anybody else does, I just want it to be clear to me what I'm supposed to be doing.
06/05/2016 09:11:30 PM · #55
Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Lots of 'Still Life' paintings in his body of work as well.

Example 1

Example 2

Example 3


I see that some folks don't think that his original works... his still life works... are valid in this challenge.

That seems a bit odd to me.
His actual works don't fit the challenge?

*eek*

06/05/2016 09:28:19 PM · #56
Originally posted by PennyStreet:

Originally posted by nygold:

The problem isn't shooting for this it's voting on it.
People will do homework to shoot but they won't do it to vote.


If participants would vote, they would have done the homework already.

:)
06/05/2016 09:54:53 PM · #57
Think of the how and not the what. I think people are getting hung up on subject matter, and not how Manet saw them/it and wished to portray them/it on canvas. A snapshot can be of anything really. Just consider/study up on his technique and go shoot whatever in a Manet-ish snapshoty sort of way....be it people, boats, cats, pickles, whatever.

: D

Message edited by author 2016-06-05 21:55:53.
06/05/2016 11:10:53 PM · #58
Originally posted by Lydia:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Lots of 'Still Life' paintings in his body of work as well.

Example 1

Example 2

Example 3


I see that some folks don't think that his original works... his still life works... are valid in this challenge.

That seems a bit odd to me.
His actual works don't fit the challenge?

*eek*


Yeah exactly, sitting this one out. Pity cause I would have liked to enter, but I'm not going to invest non-existent spare funds in looking for/hiring a suitable model and wardrobe, at the very least, for a challenge in which I'm sure to get dinged cause I'll do something *gasp* different....

Message edited by author 2016-06-05 23:12:24.
06/06/2016 12:01:09 AM · #59
Originally posted by snaffles:

Originally posted by Lydia:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Lots of 'Still Life' paintings in his body of work as well.

Example 1

Example 2

Example 3


I see that some folks don't think that his original works... his still life works... are valid in this challenge.

That seems a bit odd to me.
His actual works don't fit the challenge?

*eek*


Yeah exactly, sitting this one out. Pity cause I would have liked to enter, but I'm not going to invest non-existent spare funds in looking for/hiring a suitable model and wardrobe, at the very least, for a challenge in which I'm sure to get dinged cause I'll do something *gasp* different....


The pity is that you think your image has to have people in it ;)
06/06/2016 09:44:43 AM · #60
Originally posted by tanguera:

...Yeah exactly, sitting this one out. Pity cause I would have liked to enter, but I'm not going to invest non-existent spare funds in looking for/hiring a suitable model and wardrobe, at the very least, for a challenge in which I'm sure to get dinged cause I'll do something *gasp* different....


The pity is that you think your image has to have people in it ;) [/quote]

Yeah I know...
06/06/2016 10:20:38 AM · #61
Originally posted by PennyStreet:

Originally posted by PennyStreet:

Originally posted by tnun:

I think the snapshot part was suggestive rather than definitive.

And here again I have problems with what seem to be the general concerns: the winning, as if there were a correct answer and the judging as if a correct answer was the point.

the point is what many have already done and shared: to look at the works and be inspired, to see if it can inform your work. now I just wish I could take my advice and never ever worry about the other end, the judging.


" I think the snapshot part was suggestive rather than definitive.". Maybe so, but when I first read it I didn't think that.

FYI, I don't care if I win.. I just want to know what I should be looking for when I'm shooting... and when it comes time to vote, if i like the image I vote accordingly. I am very open to interpretation.


Edit to add: I guess I'm just old enough that if something isn't spelled out properly, it confuses me. I don't really care what anybody else does, I just want it to be clear to me what I'm supposed to be doing.


I can't find where I or anybody else suggested this challenge. I think I dreamed the whole thing and then Freddie Kruger added it to the challenge queue.
06/06/2016 11:45:57 AM · #62
Originally posted by posthumous:


I can't find where I or anybody else suggested this challenge. I think I dreamed the whole thing and then Freddie Kruger added it to the challenge queue.

I have a vague (and I mean vague) recollection of a discussion about this topic, but it's probably embedded in a thread with a different title.
06/06/2016 12:27:15 PM · #63
Do I have to process it as a painting?
I mean will you guys vote it down if it doesn't look like a painting but as a real photograph.
06/06/2016 12:57:18 PM · #64
Originally posted by GeorgesBogaert:

Do I have to process it as a painting?
I mean will you guys vote it down if it doesn't look like a painting but as a real photograph.

No telling what the other voters will do. But i'm more likely to score actual photographs higher than anything doctored with any kind of painting style filters (assuming of course the photo itself is interesting to me).
06/06/2016 01:35:00 PM · #65
Originally posted by GeorgesBogaert:

Do I have to process it as a painting?
I mean will you guys vote it down if it doesn't look like a painting but as a real photograph.


As with most challenges, it is up to the photographer to create something they like, which to them satisfies the challenge. There is no way to predict how voters will react.

Not to mention that discussing in the forums how to process an image to garner points is, well, a bad idea.
06/06/2016 01:44:15 PM · #66
Ok, sorry for asking.
My picture is in.
06/06/2016 01:46:14 PM · #67
the more confusing the more the challenge. be brave, little munchkins, be brave.
06/06/2016 02:11:12 PM · #68
Originally posted by tnun:

the more confusing the more the challenge. be brave, little munchkins, be brave.


Huzzah!!!
06/06/2016 04:03:27 PM · #69
Took some shots this weekend (not for any challenge in particular). Flipped through them and picked one that seemed to fit the challenge in my own way.
Done.
Whatever you do, don't read this thread ;) - just interpret as you like.

Message edited by author 2016-06-06 16:09:04.
06/06/2016 05:06:10 PM · #70
This is a disaster already.
I smell under 30 images in this challenge with under 50 votes on each.

Now it's up to you to prove me wrong.
06/06/2016 05:34:55 PM · #71
Originally posted by nygold:

I smell under 30 images in this challenge ...

Sorry I can't help -- like you, I'm only allowed to enter once ... ;-)
06/06/2016 05:37:25 PM · #72
Originally posted by nygold:

This is a disaster already.
I smell under 30 images in this challenge with under 50 votes on each.

Now it's up to you to prove me wrong.


You've got to be kidding. There's more than a day left! I predict that the biggest surge to way over 30 entries will occur between 6-8 hours before rollover :)
06/06/2016 05:39:59 PM · #73
there are 3 days left!
06/06/2016 07:44:59 PM · #74
Originally posted by posthumous:



I can't find where I or anybody else suggested this challenge. I think I dreamed the whole thing and then Freddie Kruger added it to the challenge queue.


I guess we can... kinda blame this on Cory... with you as a distant second.

Prior challenge suggestioon

But... my entry's in.
Against my better judgement.

*sigh*

(Edit to fix link)

Message edited by author 2016-06-06 19:46:10.
06/06/2016 09:16:14 PM · #75
Wake me when it's over. :P
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