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08/10/2015 11:32:12 AM · #1
I've been around DPC for more than 10 years. Every so often I refresh my love of photography by looking at the stuff of Warren Harold, from Texas. There is nobody who better embodies pure, loving photography; the immersive magic of the medium, than he.

It's that time again.

But be warned: you must be prepared to give this guy at least half an hour of your time. Through his photographs you can get to know him, and yourself, and photography in its most essential, most pure, no-bullshit expression. There's no vanity here, no trivial accumulation of social media 'likes'. Warren is the real thing. If you can't be thrilled and inspired by Warren Harold, you aren't a photographer.
08/10/2015 12:04:51 PM · #2
Originally posted by ubique:

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If you can't be thrilled and inspired by Warren Harold, you aren't a photographer.


Harsh! Statements like this certainly inspire me to not even look at the work of people like Warren Harold!
08/10/2015 12:07:22 PM · #3
yet he posts his pictures on a social media site.

ETA: with hashtags.

Message edited by author 2015-08-10 12:09:55.
08/10/2015 01:28:09 PM · #4
...why on earth did he move to tumblr.
08/10/2015 01:29:20 PM · #5
Originally posted by ursula:

Originally posted by ubique:

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If you can't be thrilled and inspired by Warren Harold, you aren't a photographer.


Harsh! Statements like this certainly inspire me to not even look at the work of people like Warren Harold!


Harsh, possibly. Uncompromising, probably. Nonetheless I stand by my characterisation. But, "not even look"? That's really harsh. Hate to have that as my epitaph.
08/10/2015 01:39:18 PM · #6
i looked, pretty compelling images, thanks.

08/10/2015 01:57:38 PM · #7
Originally posted by ubique:

Originally posted by ursula:

Originally posted by ubique:

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If you can't be thrilled and inspired by Warren Harold, you aren't a photographer.


Harsh! Statements like this certainly inspire me to not even look at the work of people like Warren Harold!


Harsh, possibly. Uncompromising, probably. Nonetheless I stand by my characterisation. But, "not even look"? That's really harsh. Hate to have that as my epitaph.


Pardon me, "INSPIRE me not to even look". What you took away is the desire to look. You defined photographers in a very narrow way - if they are thrilled and inspired by what you find thrilling and inspiring, they are photographers; otherwise not. That's harsh!
08/10/2015 02:01:27 PM · #8
I didn't last the suggested 30 minutes but surely "There is nobody who better embodies pure, loving photography; the immersive magic of the medium, than he." is your personal thought?

I agree there are some thought provoking B&W images in there but imho some absolute tosh as well. This may be considered photographic art by some but it's not to every bodies taste just like dpc isn't the be all and end all of competitive (read main stream oft sharp and shiny) photography?

I like to think I have an eclectic taste in photography but some of his stuff wasn't worth posting (again mho).

That said, thanks for sharing :)
08/10/2015 02:06:11 PM · #9
Ohh, so amazing(ly cliche)..

Really, every time I view shite like this work I can't help but notice that it's just imitation of what was once great, but today is nothing more than weak imitation.
08/10/2015 02:57:01 PM · #10
Originally posted by ursula:

Originally posted by ubique:

Originally posted by ursula:

Originally posted by ubique:

...
If you can't be thrilled and inspired by Warren Harold, you aren't a photographer.


Harsh! Statements like this certainly inspire me to not even look at the work of people like Warren Harold!


Harsh, possibly. Uncompromising, probably. Nonetheless I stand by my characterisation. But, "not even look"? That's really harsh. Hate to have that as my epitaph.


Pardon me, "INSPIRE me not to even look". What you took away is the desire to look. You defined photographers in a very narrow way - if they are thrilled and inspired by what you find thrilling and inspiring, they are photographers; otherwise not. That's harsh!


Yes, you're right. It's a sharply personal view I expressed, and your criticism of it is fair. Thats why I like his photography though: his has always been a resolutely personal view; clean, pure and indifferent to what's trending. I could not think of a way to express my view inclusively without emasculating it. A very modern dilemma.
08/10/2015 03:10:51 PM · #11
Originally posted by ubique:

Originally posted by ursula:

Originally posted by ubique:

Originally posted by ursula:

Originally posted by ubique:

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If you can't be thrilled and inspired by Warren Harold, you aren't a photographer.


Harsh! Statements like this certainly inspire me to not even look at the work of people like Warren Harold!


Harsh, possibly. Uncompromising, probably. Nonetheless I stand by my characterisation. But, "not even look"? That's really harsh. Hate to have that as my epitaph.


Pardon me, "INSPIRE me not to even look". What you took away is the desire to look. You defined photographers in a very narrow way - if they are thrilled and inspired by what you find thrilling and inspiring, they are photographers; otherwise not. That's harsh!


Yes, you're right. It's a sharply personal view I expressed, and your criticism of it is fair. Thats why I like his photography though: his has always been a resolutely personal view; clean, pure and indifferent to what's trending. I could not think of a way to express my view inclusively without emasculating it. A very modern dilemma.


I truly appreciate your words, the words of someone who doesn't just keep yelling they're right. Thank you. I apologize for coming on so strong. I did look, way at the beginning, before my first post.
08/11/2015 05:26:47 AM · #12
Originally posted by Cory:

Ohh, so amazing(ly cliche)..

Really, every time I view shite like this work I can't help but notice that it's just imitation of what was once great, but today is nothing more than weak imitation.


Fully agreed. So we're both not photographers. When it comes from 21_N.gif ubique, I take it as a compliment, though.
08/11/2015 11:50:34 AM · #13
Ahhh once again the internet assassins rear their ugly heads. It's funny to me how as long as a photographer is not a member of this website people have no problem bashing work that may be quite dear to the person who created it. However God forbid I should ever pick out someone here like, say, 21.gif Cory and call his work "sh*t". What a firestorm that would create and I would be in violation of the site TOS. What a nice double standard we have for ourselves here.
08/11/2015 11:57:48 AM · #14
I appreciate the share. Always interested in seeing what's out there.

Originally posted by ubique:

.. his has always been a resolutely personal view; clean, pure and indifferent to what's trending. ...


It's quite trendy actually. Not in the DPC sense but in the art photography world of galleries and art magazines, and the local scenes. It has that feel, I've seen and felt it many times. Too many times as of late. It's not me (the work I like to make), as I tend to deviate in the middle, between commercial/editorial and art. My DPC portfolio is not up to date to display so don't hold the photos I post here as a bio ;)

Message edited by author 2015-08-11 12:01:31.
08/11/2015 12:13:57 PM · #15
Originally posted by smardaz:

Ahhh once again the internet assassins rear their ugly heads. It's funny to me how as long as a photographer is not a member of this website people have no problem bashing work that may be quite dear to the person who created it. However God forbid I should ever pick out someone here like, say, 21.gif Cory and call his work "sh*t". What a firestorm that would create and I would be in violation of the site TOS. What a nice double standard we have for ourselves here.


People get very defensive when they feel "subtly" and perhaps intellectually attacked.
08/11/2015 12:25:49 PM · #16
"Ahhh once again the internet assassins rear their ugly heads. It's funny to me how as long as a photographer is not a member of this website people have no problem bashing work that may be quite dear to the person who created it. However God forbid I should ever pick out someone here like, say, 21.gif Cory and call his work "sh*t". What a firestorm that would create and I would be in violation of the site TOS. What a nice double standard we have for ourselves here."

If someone shoots pictures with a camera, for whatever reason of their own, it's "Photography" and they are a "photographer". Period. Art is ALWAYS subjective, which is why it's "art".

Eugene Meatyard was a family friend and we loved him dearly. But, my personal opinion says most of his work stinks. It's depressing and weird and oddly demeaning of children. He's still remembered as one of the country's great photographers. So, who's right? Nobody and everybody. There are definitely some prima donnas at DPC. Can we all just get off the high horses and enjoy self-expression wherever it comes from or whatever it looks like?
08/11/2015 12:57:27 PM · #17
Originally posted by Luciemac:

So, who's right? Nobody and everybody.


Oh, but the experience of art becomes so much more exciting if you except the possibility that you are wrong.
08/11/2015 01:18:13 PM · #18
Originally posted by posthumous:



Oh, but the experience of art becomes so much more exciting if you except the possibility that you are wrong.


or when someone isn't constantly telling me that I should feel because they do or that i shouldn't because they dont.

by all means if something moves you (not you) share it, but dont get all pretentious about it.
08/11/2015 01:44:25 PM · #19
Originally posted by posthumous:

Originally posted by Luciemac:

So, who's right? Nobody and everybody.


Oh, but the experience of art becomes so much more exciting if you except the possibility that you are wrong.


like when you write except instead of accept...
08/11/2015 01:48:41 PM · #20
Originally posted by Mike:

Originally posted by posthumous:



Oh, but the experience of art becomes so much more exciting if you except the possibility that you are wrong.


or when someone isn't constantly telling me that I should feel because they do or that i shouldn't because they dont.

by all means if something moves you (not you) share it, but dont get all pretentious about it.
I agree, it's more exciting when it's a discussion, when all parties might actually learn something.
08/11/2015 01:59:46 PM · #21
Originally posted by posthumous:

Originally posted by Mike:

Originally posted by posthumous:



Oh, but the experience of art becomes so much more exciting if you except the possibility that you are wrong.


or when someone isn't constantly telling me that I should feel because they do or that i shouldn't because they dont.

by all means if something moves you (not you) share it, but dont get all pretentious about it.
I agree, it's more exciting when it's a discussion, when all parties might actually learn something.


discussions are good too, however the OP never afforded us that.
08/11/2015 02:21:11 PM · #22
Originally posted by Mike:

discussions are good too, however the OP never afforded us that.

Of COURSE he did! He stated a personal opinion very forcefully then left the floor open for responses. What else do you need to get a discussion going?
08/11/2015 02:31:54 PM · #23
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by Mike:

discussions are good too, however the OP never afforded us that.

Of COURSE he did! He stated a personal opinion very forcefully then left the floor open for responses. What else do you need to get a discussion going?


being talked down is usually a good way to end a conversation before it begins.

08/11/2015 02:37:55 PM · #24
Originally posted by Mike:

being talked down is usually a good way to end a conversation before it begins.

How is this "being talked down"? I call it "having an opinion."

Originally posted by Ubique:

But be warned: you must be prepared to give this guy at least half an hour of your time. Through his photographs you can get to know him, and yourself, and photography in its most essential, most pure, no-bullshit expression. There's no vanity here, no trivial accumulation of social media 'likes'. Warren is the real thing. If you can't be thrilled and inspired by Warren Harold, you aren't a photographer.
08/11/2015 02:40:20 PM · #25
Originally posted by ubique:



But be warned: you must be prepared to give this guy at least half an hour of your time. Through his photographs you can get to know him, and yourself, and photography in its most essential, most pure, no-bullshit expression. There's no vanity here, no trivial accumulation of social media 'likes'. Warren is the real thing. If you can't be thrilled and inspired by Warren Harold, you aren't a photographer.


that statement sits ok with you? because this thread is pretty divided over it.

Message edited by author 2015-08-11 14:40:46.
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