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10/26/2013 09:10:35 AM · #1
To tell the truth I tried another time before this one, but this is the first that can be considered as a real photo :)

A few things to fix, but I'm satisfied with it:

Campo Imperatore

10/26/2013 10:57:20 AM · #2
That turned out very well. Who's the foxy babe in the triumphant pose? I love Campo Imperatore, the landscape. I still remember it from 1959.
10/26/2013 11:07:52 AM · #3
16 years before I was born man! :)

Time to visit it once again ;)

ETA: The woman is my colleague Patrizia. She's in a couple of my shots (the last one is in the bokeh challenge).

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10/26/2013 01:06:16 PM · #4
Great execution! How many images did you stitch to make the scene?

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10/26/2013 02:01:22 PM · #5
Originally posted by EL-ROI:

Great execution! How many images did you stitch to make the scene?


33-36 shots taken with a 50 f/1.4 at 1.4
10/26/2013 03:15:39 PM · #6
Originally posted by Alexkc:

Originally posted by EL-ROI:

Great execution! How many images did you stitch to make the scene?


33-36 shots taken with a 50 f/1.4 at 1.4


Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of using this technique? You are using a fast lens wide open, when the technique is more about being able to simulate MF and LF cameras with narrow DoF by using a longer lens farther away from your subject.

Don't get me wrong, it's a nice picture, but not what I'd think of as a typical Brenizer.
10/26/2013 03:57:53 PM · #7
Originally posted by alohadave:

Originally posted by Alexkc:

Originally posted by EL-ROI:

Great execution! How many images did you stitch to make the scene?


33-36 shots taken with a 50 f/1.4 at 1.4


Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of using this technique? You are using a fast lens wide open, when the technique is more about being able to simulate MF and LF cameras with narrow DoF by using a longer lens farther away from your subject.

Don't get me wrong, it's a nice picture, but not what I'd think of as a typical Brenizer.


I know what you mean, I needed a longer lens (now I have 105 f/2 and would be perfect for that), but anyways without multiple and wide open shots I couldn't get this kind of narrow depth of field in a wide-angle photo.
10/26/2013 10:37:42 PM · #8
I think Dave has the right idea, but the wrong method. You'd get more of the MF feel if you moved you subject closer to your lens and continued to shoot at f/1.4. I've seen tutorials where the subject filled a whole image (out of 16-24 total images for stitching).
10/27/2013 10:49:39 AM · #9
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

I think Dave has the right idea, but the wrong method. You'd get more of the MF feel if you moved you subject closer to your lens and continued to shoot at f/1.4. I've seen tutorials where the subject filled a whole image (out of 16-24 total images for stitching).


That's interesting, I haven't heard that particular method. If you have a link to the tutorial, I'd love to see it.

Usually you see a longer lens stopped down a bit so that the subject is in focus, but the foreground and background are out of focus, and stitched so that you have a panoramic image with the subject is actually relatively small in the final shot, like the OP.

And now that I think about it, perhaps MF feel isn't quite right, it's more the look of a super wide angle lens with a super narrow DoF.
10/27/2013 11:00:21 AM · #10
Originally posted by alohadave:

... the subject is in focus, but the foreground and background are out of focus, and stitched so that you have a panoramic image with the subject is actually relatively small in the final shot ... the look of a super wide angle lens with a super narrow DoF.

I think this summarizes the goal of the technique, while (as always) there is more than one way to achieve it.
10/27/2013 11:03:01 AM · #11
This is the best tutorial I know of.

Brenizer method

Note the bottom image of the girl posing on the grass.

Btw, I looked at Alex's image again and I had sold it short on first glance because I didn't zoom in much on the ipad. There is less DOF than I had first noticed so I think it's a good attempt.

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10/27/2013 11:10:54 AM · #12
I had posted it quite big because at 1000-1200 pixels it could seem like a regular wide shot, but at a big size bokeh works very well.

Of couse if you have the subject closer to the lens bokeh area is bigger and better, that's optical rules. I didn't go closer because I wanted all the subject in one shot, otherwise there was the risk of not having a good stand alone photo of her (I didn't want to make a composite of her body). With a longer lens (being more distant from her) I could get more bokeh in the foreground and background.
10/27/2013 12:34:48 PM · #13
Originally posted by Alexkc:

I didn't want to make a composite of her body.

Yes, that would have been wrong :-).

Awesome picture, my friend!
10/27/2013 12:49:35 PM · #14
I did this for a while.

Then I decided that it was so much effort that I would instead build a digital large format camera.

..

Now, I've gotten to the point where I can actually transport and use the LFD camera all by myself, but doing so has made me wonder if the Brenizer method might not be a bit more sane. :D

Here was my first successful Brenizer-


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As for yours, I think you did very well - can't spot any seams, and everything matches up nicely on exposure too. Well done.

With your lens, and with the constraint of not splitting her into multiple images, I think you've gotten about as much as you can from this.

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