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Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM

10/19/2013 03:54:30 PM · #151

There's a difference between "candor" and "rude" - those who are unable to create comments that favor the former, rather than the latter, simply demonstrate their own personal limitations for all to see.

Neat

Canon Canon 1d x Mark II

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

10/19/2013 03:55:52 PM · #152

Originally posted by RKT:

Originally posted by Neat:

Originally posted by RKT:

Originally posted by Neat:
Is this whole comment thing for votes given under six, bc not one person who commented gave me a higher score, I'm not following this whole commenting thing, can someone explain, I don't want to read the whole thread!

Yeah yeah call me lazy,

Anita, at least go read the first post. That pretty much explains what's going on.

Cool, still waiting on your comment ;)

I'll get to you, eventually. : D

I'm just spreading it out. It's been a fairly time consuming exercise to say the least. And some of the reactions in this thread haven't helped.

Ok no problems, most have gotten it right, I see where I went wrong, again, lol!!!

Neat

Canon Canon 1d x Mark II

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

10/19/2013 03:57:27 PM · #153

Originally posted by Neat:

Originally posted by RKT:

Originally posted by Neat:

Originally posted by RKT:

Originally posted by Neat:
Is this whole comment thing for votes given under six, bc not one person who commented gave me a higher score, I'm not following this whole commenting thing, can someone explain, I don't want to read the whole thread!

Yeah yeah call me lazy,

Anita, at least go read the first post. That pretty much explains what's going on.

Cool, still waiting on your comment ;)

I'll get to you, eventually. : D

I'm just spreading it out. It's been a fairly time consuming exercise to say the least. And some of the reactions in this thread haven't helped.

Ok no problems, most have gotten it right, I see where I went wrong, again, lol!!!

So far Denielle has been my highest vote!

Message edited by author 2013-10-19 15:57:48.

Cory

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

10/19/2013 04:05:16 PM · #154

Originally posted by chalice:

I agree. The only issue is that the difference is rather subjective. What one person might find perfectly polite, but straight forward, another person may find quite rude and offensive. Partially cultural differences are at play, partially it's just that some people are more sensitive about these things.. And there is, of course, the fact that there may be truly rude comments, but I'm afraid we really won't know until the challenge is over...

tnun

Ricoh GR III

Pentax DA 18-135mm F3.5-5.6ED AL [IF] WR DC

10/19/2013 04:18:26 PM · #155

Originally posted by chalice:

it's a toughie: candor is a noun, and rude is an adjective, but that is my own personal limitation, one of many which I demonstrate daily for those who see.

ETA: I am a grammatical nitpicker, one of many personal limitations... The real point is that our limitations are indeed on show all the time. At least I seem not have found a satisfactory way in which to hide mine.

What may appear as rudeness to some, may well appear as candour to others.

I wonder if we are a society that totally fails to understand risk and the consequences of risk. The current financial debacle is a great instance: normally gamblers have to pay up or lose a finger. Perhaps a better analogy involves show business: does it make a difference whether the audience throws rotten tomatoes or simply fails to respond? I don't know. How alive is the audience anyway?

Message edited by author 2013-10-19 16:42:33.

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 35-70mm f/2.8D

10/19/2013 04:20:55 PM · #156

Subjectivity notwithstanding, when in doubt its generally a good idea to "be classy" in all things. Virtually all people, regardless of their "cultural differences" and another person's "sensitivity" understand on a visceral level what it means to "be classy". And even if "classy" is a subjective concept, at least it is trending in the right direction, no matter how one interprets the concept.

tvsometime

Nikon D750

10/19/2013 04:26:46 PM · #157

You have rated 51 of 85 images (60%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 51 images (59%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.7647.

Cory

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM

10/19/2013 04:28:24 PM · #158

You have rated 70 of 86 images (81%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 70 images (81%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.2143.

Done.

You have rated 83 of 86 images (97%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 83 images (97%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.4337.

Here's my breakout

10- 1
9 - 2
8 - 2
7 - 16
6 - 24
5 - 17
4 - 11
3 - 5
2 - 3
1 - 2

Message edited by author 2013-10-19 17:17:59.

lunachicken

Nikon D90

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8

10/19/2013 07:04:48 PM · #159

Whew.

You have rated 85 of 85 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 84 images (98%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.9647.

This was more challenging than I expected!

posthumous

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

10/19/2013 07:12:24 PM · #160

Stats: You have rated 63 of 85 images (74%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 63 images (73%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 4.5714.

you know how sometimes when something's not working right, you kick it, not to harm it but in a desperate attempt to get it to work? That's why I started this challenge.

sputter sputter burp

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

10/19/2013 07:16:31 PM · #161

Originally posted by posthumous:

you know how sometimes when something's not working right, you kick it, not to harm it but in a desperate attempt to get it to work?

I refer you to the story "Uncle Fremmis" by Theodore Sturgeon -- he explains it well.

ShaneBlake

Nikon D7100

Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM for Nikon

10/19/2013 07:49:10 PM · #162

Seems this has been a good lesson for both comment givers and receivers. One needs to be more sensitive, the other less so...

Not to go all churchy on you, but this particular biblical gem comes to mind : "Above all, keep loving one another earnestly, since love covers a multitude of sins."

As for comments, I've been enjoying them... Even when they come with a 2 vote.

Just for the interested

posthumous,

bear_music,

cory, and

see all gave me pretty similar feedback on my image. Their corresponding votes where 2, 5, 6, and 7.

I think that's awesome. And not bad for a shoehorn entry...

;)

Message edited by author 2013-10-19 19:49:28.

sfalice

Canon PowerShot SX60 HS

10/19/2013 08:00:30 PM · #163

Originally posted by posthumous:

Well, dang it, it's working! so what else you got up your sleeve? Or at the end of your toe.

Message edited by author 2013-10-19 20:02:09.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

10/19/2013 08:18:02 PM · #164

Originally posted by kudzu:

Just for the interested posthumous, bear_music, cory, and see all gave me pretty similar feedback on my image. Their corresponding votes where 2, 5, 6, and 7.

Hmmm ... I've gotten a 4, 7, and 5 (respectively, so far) � better than I'd expected ... :-)

10/19/2013 09:48:32 PM · #165

Those who mention a score for my image are all over the board: 2,3,4,4,6,6,6,7,7,7. Several others have made comments without mentioning a number (and those don't agree either). Pretty amusing, especially because people keep mentioning the same thing about the photograph, but disagree about whether or not it is a positive/negative thing. Just goes to show that you can't please everyone.

Fujifilm XF 18-55mm f/2.8-4 OIS

10/19/2013 09:54:41 PM · #166

It would be a nifty thing if all participants would explain their photo in the photographer's notes, in order for the commenting and non-commenting to know their vision, see where they were coming from. And I do hope the commenters will be revisiting...

mariuca

Fujifilm X-T30

10/19/2013 09:54:47 PM · #167

Originally posted by chalice:

Did you think that when a group of people would make a comment on every image and show the mark the result would be a unanimous agreement? How would this exercise be different then any other voting ?

10/19/2013 09:58:30 PM · #168

Originally posted by mariuca:

How would this exercise be different then any other voting ?

This exercise will be different from other voting because the commenters are forced to stare at the photo for a while and decide what they want to say. Kind of a Stockholm syndrome thing.

10/19/2013 10:09:56 PM · #169

Originally posted by mariuca:

Did you think that when a group of people would make a comment on every image and show the mark the result would be a unanimous agreement? How would this exercise be different then any other voting ?

No, I simply find it interesting that the same feature elicits pretty opposite responses. Notice that there are no 5's, which is often considered an "average" vote. Even more than the number, what they actually say about the feature is sometime just the opposite. Its on the order of this kind of comment (which I've made up for purpose of illustration): "Love the black and white treatment, really gets at the seediness of the book (7)." vs. "B&W doesn't fit this book at all; should have used deep colors to bring out the emotion of the story. (3)."

Fujifilm XF 18-55mm f/2.8-4 OIS

10/19/2013 10:27:40 PM · #170

N/a

Message edited by author 2013-10-19 22:28:36.

mariuca

Fujifilm X-T30

10/19/2013 10:34:06 PM · #171

Originally posted by chalice:

Don't you just love this? Don't you find that your own comments to a picture differ widely from other people's comments?

skewsmeThis exercise will be different from other voting because the commenters are forced to stare at the photo for a while and decide what they want to say. Kind of a Stockholm syndrome thing.

Absolutely. But it surely does not mean that if a group of people really consider one image carefully they would arrive to a similar appreciation of the same picture as it was somehow implied by Jeff.

10/19/2013 10:42:13 PM · #172

No, i was simply answering the question i quoted.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

10/19/2013 10:57:42 PM · #173

Originally posted by chalice:

Originally posted by mariuca:
Did you think that when a group of people would make a comment on every image and show the mark the result would be a unanimous agreement? How would this exercise be different then any other voting ?

No, I simply find it interesting that the same feature elicits pretty opposite responses. Notice that there are no 5's, which is often considered an "average" vote. Even more than the number, what they actually say about the feature is sometime just the opposite. Its on the order of this kind of comment (which I've made up for purpose of illustration): "Love the black and white treatment, really gets at the seediness of the book (7)." vs. "B&W doesn't fit this book at all; should have used deep colors to bring out the emotion of the story. (3)."

"Typical" vote-received pattern:

"Ideal" vote-received pattern:

Cuttooth

Canon EOS R

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

10/20/2013 12:02:28 AM · #174

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by chalice:

Originally posted by mariuca:
Did you think that when a group of people would make a comment on every image and show the mark the result would be a unanimous agreement? How would this exercise be different then any other voting ?

No, I simply find it interesting that the same feature elicits pretty opposite responses. Notice that there are no 5's, which is often considered an "average" vote. Even more than the number, what they actually say about the feature is sometime just the opposite. Its on the order of this kind of comment (which I've made up for purpose of illustration): "Love the black and white treatment, really gets at the seediness of the book (7)." vs. "B&W doesn't fit this book at all; should have used deep colors to bring out the emotion of the story. (3)."

"Typical" vote-received pattern: "Ideal" vote-received pattern:

Ideal? This is my idea of ideal! :)