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09/27/2013 03:56:49 PM · #1 |
Me and Nic (my wife) are off to a symposium in Ann Arbor in October but are staying a couple of days in New York en route.
For me, the main appeal of visiting cities is eating out. So, tips for breakfast, lunch and dinner would be appreciated :-) I'm hoping those of you in the know might recommend some gems that we might not otherwise find.
I have been before (on my own) but didn't really stray too far from Columbus circle. This time we're staying on W 46th Street.
Might actually take a photo or two while we are there (bought a new lens for the trip!)
Cheers
Paul |
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09/27/2013 04:27:29 PM · #2 |
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09/27/2013 04:52:02 PM · #3 |
With an inspection grade of C? Seriously? |
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09/27/2013 04:54:33 PM · #4 |
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09/27/2013 05:30:13 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
With an inspection grade of C? Seriously? |
C stands for "Cat" |
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09/27/2013 05:35:19 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
With an inspection grade of C? Seriously? |
C stands for "Cat" |
But tastes like chicken! |
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09/27/2013 06:18:53 PM · #7 |
Paul,
If you want good classic Italian cooking from a world renown chef that's not over the top then you must go to:
//becco-nyc.com/about-us/
Becco's is in hell's kitchen not far from where you are staying. Don't let the name scare you it's in a very nice residential type neighborhood. AT least as residential as downtown NYC gets. (smile)
For an awesome lunch/deli experience you won't regret going to Katz's Delicatessen. It's been written about in all the magazines. There isn't a local around that won't swear by this spot. Not fancy. Just a plain old neighborhood deli that has a world class reputation from the New Yorkers. They serve over 10,000 lbs. of pastrami a week!
Believe me now but thank me later brother....
//katzsdelicatessen.com/
Damn I'm getting hungry just thinking about these two places. My wife and I live in CT but on Sunday we're driving down to B & H Photo (NYC). I've just been told that I better take her to Katz's or no B & H Photo. Fair trade off for me. (smile)
Message edited by author 2013-09-27 20:15:08. |
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09/27/2013 06:22:03 PM · #8 |
| I can't help you with specific places, but it seems to me the archetypical New York foods are pizza, bagels, a pastrami on rye, and maybe a Nathan's Coney Island hot dog ... |
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09/27/2013 07:28:49 PM · #9 |
Don't worry too much about where, Paul. While the locals can point you and specific places, NY, like Paris, is pretty much foolproof. You can pop in just about anywhere and have an above-average meal. For a fun experience you should visit the (incredibly crowded) Chelsea Market (all sorts of delicious eateries in there).
So, when are you coming to the WEST coast...? |
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09/27/2013 08:14:01 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Trotterjay:
Paul,
If you want good classic Italian cooking from a world renown chef that's not over the top then you must go to:
//becco-nyc.com/about-us/
Beco's is in hell's kitchen not far from where you are staying. Don't let the name scare you it's in a very nice residential type neighborhood. AT least as residential as downtown NYC gets. (smile)
For an awesome lunch/deli experience you won't regret going to Katz's Delicatessen. It's been written about in all the magazines. There isn't a local around that won't swear by this spot. Not fancy. Just a plain old neighborhood deli that has a world class reputation from the New Yorkers. They serve over 10,000 lbs. of pastrami a week!
Believe me now but thank me later brother....
//katzsdelicatessen.com/
Damn I'm getting hungry just thinking about these two places. My wife and I live in CT but on Sunday we're driving down to B & H Photo (NYC). I've just been told that I better take her to Katz's or no B & H Photo. Fair trade off for me. (smile) |
I've never researched a sanitary inspection grade before I ate in a restaurant in my entire life. However, for those discriminating diners who go the extra mile:
Becco's - New York City Sanitary Inspection Grade: A
Katz's Deli. - New York City Sanitary Inspection Grade: A
Message edited by author 2013-09-27 20:30:49. |
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09/27/2013 08:37:51 PM · #11 |
Wo hop! I am amazed someone else knows that place. I had a chinese friend who would take us there over fifteen years ago. We always let her order.
becco seemed ordinary to me, but the neighborhood is great. funny to come to ny from abroad. would u want "american" food? manhattan's strength is actually the variety of foreign cuisines. been out of the city a while but my experience has always been that the best food is in the east village. and do NOT listen to johanna. plenty of lousy overpriced food in manhattan. don't eat in times square. |
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09/27/2013 08:57:09 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
Wo hop! I am amazed someone else knows that place. I had a chinese friend who would take us there over fifteen years ago. We always let her order.
becco seemed ordinary to me, but the neighborhood is great. funny to come to ny from abroad. would u want "american" food? manhattan's strength is actually the variety of foreign cuisines. been out of the city a while but my experience has always been that the best food is in the east village. and do NOT listen to johanna. plenty of lousy overpriced food in manhattan. don't eat in times square. |
It's true. I haven't lived there in years, so it's possible the quality dropped because when I left.
On the other hand, follow the rules of travel: food is RARELY good and ALWAYS more expensive around touristy areas. We had some fabulous Greek food in what used to be known as Alphabet City. You should also be advised that the food in NY can be $$$$$$$$$$ |
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09/27/2013 08:57:19 PM · #13 |
Zagat did a nice little piece on the best slice in town.
If you want American food in NYC, the trinity are a slice of pie, a hamburger (Shake shack) and a hot dog (either a dirty water dog from a cart or Nathan's) Of course a good Ruben sandwich (katz's) or the steam table at a bar (the Blarney Stone) is really more New York than American, but you won't find anyting like them anywhere else.
And New York's Chinese dining options follows well behind San Francisco, Vancouver and London these days IMHO.
Message edited by author 2013-09-27 21:18:21. |
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09/27/2013 09:39:02 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Trotterjay:
I've never researched a sanitary inspection grade before I ate in a restaurant in my entire life. |
Me neither. I was just looking at Wo Hop's menu and was surprised to see the grading information prominently on the last page. Apparently it's a requirement to post it online now? I donno...
Message edited by author 2013-09-27 21:39:47. |
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09/27/2013 09:56:31 PM · #15 |
| Oh, great topic. i'll be in NY for couple of days in December on my way to Amsterdam. I'll be keeping an eye on this thread. |
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09/27/2013 10:22:33 PM · #16 |
| paul, what foods are you fond of or looking to try? |
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09/27/2013 11:21:59 PM · #17 |
Paul, a few places we enjoy when visiting NYC.
//www.luzzospizza.com - really nice neighborhood pizza place.
//www.clintonstreetbaking.com - great breakfast but you might need to wait for a table.
//www.menupages.com/restaurants/bread - trendy inexpensive place for a casual meal. |
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09/27/2013 11:47:31 PM · #18 |
Paul, I'll send you a whole list of places tomorrow after I get some jet lag taken care of (just got back from Eu)
It would be nice to know if your stay in the City is during the week or weekend and for how long - helps with great eating recommendations
I did work a lot in Ann Arbor and recommend a deli, of all places!
//www.zingermansdeli.com
Also, splendid bookstores, open till wee hours.
Would you have time in NY for a chat also?
I am a staunch Manhattanite and can help you with any questions. You can PM me.
And, by the way, I would not recommend pizza as a first choice when the place is rife with amazing restaurants in all price range. Which cuisine do you favor? |
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09/28/2013 12:54:10 AM · #19 |
| I was going to suggest contacting Mariuca, who is totally awesome in every respect, and likely to be an invaluable source for all sorts of NY information. |
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09/28/2013 02:59:33 AM · #20 |
Many thanks all - some really useful leads!
We are just there en route, so two nights only, a Monday and Tuesday.
As some of you have alluded to, I'd like to not get tempted into well-placed conspicuous eateries in tourist areas only to be disappointed. It's also nice to use food as an excuse to explore a little further.
I am fond of full-on American breakfasts (on occasion) - somewhere a little cliche would be fun; lunches to be taken somewhere in an interesting area - good light food where you can watch the world go by. Dinners, informal but classy without being corporate (not that I'm fussy!!). I go to the US much less than I used to and miss the corn-fed beef. I'm not a fan of British grass-fed beef, so tend to take advantage of American beef when there. Otherwise, we both like most types of food though my wife is more ambience-led when choosing places to eat.
I'll check through all these links - thanks.
Mariuca - I'd noticed your amazing work in Ann Arbor, I'll PM you.
Cheers
Paul |
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09/28/2013 07:53:03 AM · #21 |
If you get a chance you should have atleast one drink at McSorley's Ale House.
You can get food there but it's all about the beer. Lots of history here's a little run down.
McSorley's Old Ale House, generally known as McSorley's, is the oldest "Irish" tavern in New York City.[1] Located at 15 East 7th Street in the East Village neighborhood of Manhattan, it was one of the last of the "Men Only" pubs, only admitting women after legally being forced to do so in 1970.
The aged artwork, newspaper articles covering the walls, sawdust floors, and the Irish waiters and bartenders give McSorley's an atmosphere that many consider, correctly or not, reminiscent of "Olde New York." No piece of memorabilia has been removed from the walls since 1910, and there are many items of "historical" paraphernalia in the bar, such as Houdini's handcuffs, which are connected to the bar rail. There are also wishbones hanging above the bar; supposedly they were hung there by boys going off to World War I, to be removed when they returned, so the wishbones that are left are from those that never returned.[4]
Two of McSorley's mottos are "Be Good or Be Gone", and "We were here before you were born". Prior to the 1970 ruling, the motto was "Good Ale, Raw Onions and No Ladies"; the raw onions can still be had as part of McSorley's cheese platter.
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09/28/2013 11:39:17 AM · #22 |
There are tons of cool old places like Don's suggestion. On the opposite end of the quaint spectrum is the Four Seasons restaurant on the ground floor of the Seagrams building on Park Avenue, at about 53rd Street. It is extremely pricey, but the you can stop for a drink at the gorgeous bar, and ask if you can see the Pool room. They have a big square fountain in the center of the dining room, and the white noise from it, coupled with the lighting and chandeliers, is not to be missed.
But again, there's SO much to see/do/eat, and only 2 days....
In the most general terms, midtown is a dead zone for coolness. The further towards the edges of the island you go, the more interesting things get, but also more hit or miss. Very little retail along the actual edges (mostly residential). Don't know a thing about life above 100th Street. |
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09/28/2013 04:41:11 PM · #23 |
For two days I shouldn't write a culinary novel although NYC would plainly deserve it. Here are some ideas, with your W46 location in mind - am sure that in 2 hours I might change my mind on all
Breakfast - hmm I just have to throw the dice; too many (you might be fine in any greasy spoon with a view):
- best croissants outside the Quartier latin: Mille-Feuille - 552 Laguardia Place - //www.millefeuille-nyc.com - a very nice place to sit at cafe tables outside and relax - it's just south of Washington Square Park
- Best Bagels and Coffee - 225 W 35th St
- Tisserie 55 - Park Central Hotel
- Barney Greengrass - 541 Amsterdam Ave. (bet. 86th & 87th Sts.) //www.barneygreengrass.com/welcome.php (bagel and lox)
- 21club - 21 W 52nd St (between Avenue Of The Americas & 5th Ave) //www.21club.com/web/onyc/21_club.jsp
or, just stop at Zabar's - Broadway at 80th street
In random order a few restaurants:
- Perla - 24 Minetta Lane - //perlanyc.com- A recent favorite for Italian, but on the pricey side... amazing service and attention to detail.
- In Times Square - Osteria Al Doge - 142 W 44th St - surprisingly good Venetian restaurant //www.osteria-doge.com
- Also in Times Square - Sake Bar Hagi - //sakebarhagi.com - A small underground Japanese restaurant that's quite good for traditional Japanese fare.
- Spotted Pig - a recent favorite - //thespottedpig.com
- Meat market District and Chelsea - a few great places:
-Spice, Pastis, STK (steakhouse) pick your favorite: //www.zagat.com/c/new-york-city-ny/meatpacking-district-restaurants
- Classic steakhouse: //www.smithandwollensky.com - 797 Third Ave
- French classic: Balthazar - 80 Spring Street - //www.balthazarny.com
For the latest: //nymag.com/restaurants/wheretoeat/2013/best-restaurants/
PS. My work in Ann Arbor was not a culinary venue but the Hill Auditorium (seating, sightlines and interior design) |
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09/28/2013 06:16:21 PM · #24 |
| Mariuca, is Sarabeth's Kitchen still amazing? Or has it gone commercial? There used to be two locations (one eastside one westside), and they had those extraordinarily extravagant "American" breakfasts (omelets, pancakes, French toast, pastries, etc.) that Paul mentioned. |
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09/28/2013 06:32:06 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by tanguera:
Mariuca, is Sarabeth's Kitchen still amazing? Or has it gone commercial? There used to be two locations (one eastside one westside), and they had those extraordinarily extravagant "American" breakfasts (omelets, pancakes, French toast, pastries, etc.) that Paul mentioned. |
Alive and kicking, an old institution though and in my view with some British overtones, therefore I did not mention it.
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