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12/18/2012 06:48:02 AM · #1 |
I don't use Instagram (i used it a few times on iPhone but far preferred Hipstamatic so stuck to that.) but this is pretty bold. Can't really see it lasting for much longer with this kind of thing really.
Instagram now can sell your photos. |
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12/18/2012 07:17:04 AM · #2 |
| Off to instantly uninstall instagram from my iPhone. |
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12/18/2012 07:36:20 AM · #3 |
images removed and account deleted ... shame :(
BBC report |
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12/18/2012 07:36:57 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by h2:
Off to instantly uninstall instagram from my iPhone. |
Don't forget to close your account as you automatically grant them those rights on Jan 16th if you don't |
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12/18/2012 08:04:03 AM · #5 |
I am trying to delete my photos through instagram app. I am getting error messages saying I can't delete. Any one else get that?
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12/18/2012 08:05:07 AM · #6 |
| I did .... I think you can only delete about 10 photos at a time before you get a "flood" warning ... I guess the same would happen when posting. I tried a few mins later and was able to delete more |
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12/18/2012 08:09:48 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by EL-ROI:
I am trying to delete my photos through instagram app. I am getting error messages saying I can't delete. Any one else get that? |
This may be of use. 'How to download your Instagram photos and delete account.' |
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12/18/2012 08:14:26 AM · #8 |
| Not that I really used it (much), but bye bye instagram... |
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12/18/2012 08:56:15 AM · #9 |
Thanks all. I found I have to update my iOS in order to update instagram so I can delete photos. Now to figure out why I can't backup my phone so I can update my iOS version.
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12/18/2012 09:33:23 AM · #10 |
| Thanks heavens I trusted my instincts. The minute I heard about Instagram in the same sentence as 'Bought', I deleted it. What a terrible way to show once more that NOTHING comes for FREE! |
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12/18/2012 10:23:43 AM · #11 |
never used instagram, but points
one how can a company legally acquire the rights to images simply by changing their policy.
two, it would be interesting if Facebook followed suit...
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12/18/2012 10:30:20 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
never used instagram, but points
one how can a company legally acquire the rights to images simply by changing their policy.
two, it would be interesting if Facebook followed suit... |
Because you tick their "I agree to your terms" box which also has a message saying terms can change at anytime .... totally legal
That is ALREADY in facebooks terms, they have stated they won't sell your images but their terms would allow them to. (
from https://www.facebook.com/legal/terms
For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos (IP content), you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook (IP License). This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it.
I believe the section stating "transferable, sub-licensable" allows them to do this
I am comfortable sharing images on facebook as I always add my copyright to them ... instagrams terms also state they can modify your image and so they could remove your copyright tag, whereas facebook don't have that |
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12/18/2012 10:42:48 AM · #13 |
| and this is why I steer clear from these social networking sites. screw them! |
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12/18/2012 10:59:45 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by Denielle:
and this is why I steer clear from these social networking sites. screw them! |
nicely put |
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12/18/2012 11:33:43 AM · #15 |
from Instagram's website:
2.Some or all of the Service may be supported by advertising revenue. To help us deliver interesting paid or sponsored content or promotions, you agree that a business or other entity may pay us to display your username, likeness, photos (along with any associated metadata), and/or actions you take, in connection with paid or sponsored content or promotions, without any compensation to you.
I'm done too!..going right now to delete all my photos and close the account.
Message edited by author 2012-12-18 11:34:20. |
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12/18/2012 12:20:10 PM · #16 |
Welcome to the cloud.
Anyone that thinks all these "free" services are run by caring corporations that are just willing to share their server space is naive. Everything you put in the cloud is datamined and sold to advertisers. Remember EXIF information from your phones has plenty of information. You think operating system software developers put the latitude and longitude in there for your convenience? I think not...
I hate sounding paranoid, but this cloud stuff freaks me out and pisses me off. Talk about a trojan horse. What I don't get is how people buying advertising actually make money by buying this from these cloud companies. The Google search engine and Gmail are datamined, but I've never once clicked an ad or purchased something based on an ad. I don't even notice ads, so for me they're not even effectively getting the brand recognized.
Facebook didn't buy Instagram for 1 billion because it was innovative software, they bought 30 million users' information. Ancestry.com was just bought for 1.6 billion. It only has 2 million users, but those 2 million users have created 10 billion family data records.
It's not even just the cloud, banks and credit card companies are selling spending habits to advertisers too. It's everywhere... I gave a speech on all this last term, and the more research I did, the more it pissed me off that these companies are allowed to do this. Sure we sign user agreements, but we're being pushed to the cloud if we want to keep up with society. Most tablets don't have input ports. Why? Because all your stuff is in the cloud anyway, why would you need a USB port?
I swear I don't want to be that crazy lady in the woods that jumped off the society ship in 2010. I've got nothing to hide, but out of principle, I don't feel comfortable with companies making money off of me. I'm doing my best to just limit my presence in the cloud, but I'm in school to be a computer programmer. I have a feeling my resistance is futile, but perhaps I can change the direction of things from within the machine, even if just a little bit. |
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12/18/2012 12:46:22 PM · #17 |
its a mutually beneficial relationship.
take Google. they offer great products for free in return you provide information about yourself. Facebook et al work the same way. they have to monetize or else how do thy even stay functional.
part of me was skeptical like you, but where is atnd is this:
so long as its not being used for nefarious reasons, im ok with it and more information is always good. so long as im not being singled out by anyone or blacklisted in some way from information i provided than whats the harm?
in this case i respect my copyright and dont wish to provide certain things for free so i will be keeping an eye on facebook, some people dont care and will allow their images to be used.
As long as its all transparent and people know where there data is being used it can really only benefit us all... i think. |
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12/18/2012 01:02:32 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
As long as its all transparent and people know where there data is being used it can really only benefit us all... i think. |
What's weird about all this is the transparency. You're right, it's all right there in the user agreements. But, if everyone were actually aware of what these companies were doing, how many would be quite so open with what they give? Look at you and I, both holding back information in comparison to let's say, my mother. She's signed up for every free thing she comes across. I have an Albertsons "club card" because it's my corner grocery store and the prices are marked up if I don't use it. My mother has a stack of these cards from every store she's ever been to. Is my mom dumb? Absolutely not, she's quite intelligent, just naive. It's these kind of people that the companies make money off of.
I'm not at all saying it's the companies' fault, but they bank on the masses not reading or not understanding what they're giving up in exchange for a free or discounted thing. Things like this Instagram policy pop up a few times a year and people get all worked up, but then they fall for the next free thing.
Edit to add: To address the "benefit us all" bit, I just opened an interesting bit of mail. My health insurance company just sent me a diabetes packet to teach me about my "condition." I don't have diabetes. The only way they can think I have diabetes is they're datamining my medications. I have a condition that uses similar medications, but is not diabetes. I would imagine I'm now flagged somewhere in the world as a high risk diabetic. I wonder how much that will cost me in the future.
Message edited by author 2012-12-18 13:09:50. |
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12/18/2012 01:25:59 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by aliqui:
Edit to add: To address the "benefit us all" bit, I just opened an interesting bit of mail. My health insurance company just sent me a diabetes packet to teach me about my "condition." I don't have diabetes. The only way they can think I have diabetes is they're datamining my medications. I have a condition that uses similar medications, but is not diabetes. I would imagine I'm now flagged somewhere in the world as a high risk diabetic. I wonder how much that will cost me in the future. |
that the only part that bothers me about all this. being incorrectly labeled as to have an adverse affect. for instance higher premiums on insurance.
on the other hand if someone is using this information to datamine and is able to determine a better treatment than that's beneficial. |
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12/18/2012 03:43:53 PM · #20 |
| I never installed or used it as I understood that all it did was convert my creative photographic work into a vignetted purple soft Polaroid from the 60's. Who would want to buy that??? |
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12/18/2012 04:17:55 PM · #21 |
| Whoa. Just saw this. Glad I never used the app. |
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12/18/2012 04:41:59 PM · #22 |
"Facebook's photo-sharing site Instagram has updated its privacy policy giving it the right to sell users' photos to advertisers without notification."
On the bright side you might find out you're actually good at shooting stock. |
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12/18/2012 05:27:14 PM · #23 |
//blog.instagram.com/post/38252135408/thank-you-and-were-listening
They're listening and they're "Changing their language". Not changing their TOS mind you. |
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12/18/2012 07:44:51 PM · #24 |
I hate the kind of condescending language companies use with users.
"You might not understand all this complicated legal stuff, but these nasty people in the media got hold of it and twisted our words. You don't believe them, do you? Now, don't you worry your pretty little heads about this complicated jargon. We've made it even easier to understand. But needless to say, we'll always cherish and protect your photographs and let you use our resources for free and never ever ever never never think of ways to make money out of you. And we'll always be your best friends forever. Love, the instagram team"
What a load of rubbish. Its a damage limitation exercise. The instagram users are the product, the customers are their advertisers.
It's the Facebook shareholders they should be apologising to.
Message edited by author 2012-12-18 19:45:21. |
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12/20/2012 11:30:49 PM · #25 |
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