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05/26/2012 10:03:04 PM · #1
I'm currently on Snow Leopard, but noticed there are some apps out now which will only run on Lion.

I was thinking about upgrading to Lion, but have read some terrible reviews; mostly related to poor performance.

Has anyone upgraded? - What's your experience?
05/26/2012 10:06:41 PM · #2
I upgraded a few months ago. MacBook Pro. 2009 vintage. No problems here.
05/26/2012 10:21:21 PM · #3
iMac 2008, MacBook 2009. Both are running fine now. I slugged along for months after I upgraded before I finally realized it was the OS, remedied by a clean install of Lion from a bootable disc/disc image rather than the upgrade/update pathway.
05/26/2012 10:35:24 PM · #4
I did upgrade on my old 2008 black Macbook with no issues!
05/26/2012 11:05:07 PM · #5
I upgraded my 2008 MacBook Pro with no problems
05/26/2012 11:14:55 PM · #6
I did the Lion upgrade on my late 2007 MacBook Pro and 2009 Mac Mini with no issues (both have 4GB of RAM).
Lion came with my late 2011 MacBook Pro, and I verified it makes good use of extra RAM. I went from 8GB to 16GB a couple of weeks ago. I expected some increased performance, but actually it was considerable. Photoshop and Lightroom even open and close faster with the additional RAM.
05/27/2012 12:09:03 AM · #7
Only problem that I had when first upgrading was a Time Machine issue. It somehow would get itself stuck and never finish when backing up to an external hard drive of 2TB. This in turn would soon lock up the Finder. Could still cont to run open programs, but pain in the but when you can't access other programs. That was 10.7.2. Went through all the fixes I could find, even through Terminal stuff. 10.7.3 and now 10.7.4 don't seem to have the problem anymore.
Other than that, nothing else.
05/27/2012 12:51:11 AM · #8
Upgraded in December with no issues aside from losing access to a few very old applications (as expected). If you have multiple Macs, you can legally upgrade all of them from the same installer, but you must copy it to a flash drive first because the installer deletes itself after running (even from Time Machine). Last week I upgraded from 12GB of RAM to 24GB and the difference was very obvious when working with a large iPhoto library.
05/27/2012 04:34:53 AM · #9
I upgraded last winter to Lion. Now on Max OSX 10.7.4. I have 10 GB of RAM. I have no issues or problems.

Aperture v.3.2.4
Safari 5.1.7

The biggest change for me with Lion were the new gestures. I like them okay, now that I'm used to them.

My Mac Pro is old enough (late 2006) that I will not be able to upgrade to the next OS, which will be named Mountain Lion. But, that decision to upgrade to a new computer is probably 6 months away.
05/27/2012 04:45:41 AM · #10
I must say my experience was not all so great. I have the 2011 macbook pro 2.3 GHz i7 8GB ram and on snow leopard it was blazingly fast... as it should be for what i spent!! lion however made things slow to a crawl. safari used to open the second i clicked now sometimes takes 5 or 6 seconds for example, same with mail. I'd say that almost all of the normal day to day stuff I do got slowed down by a few seconds. add them all up and you say "why did I upgrade?" add in the stupidly complex gestures (for their lack of consistency), all the eye candy transitions, and the fact that minimized windows disappear from existence and let's just say I can't wait for the mountain lion.

from what i hear mountain lion is going to run much better; it seems like apple is moving their software towards the flash memory market. Lion apparently runs like lightning on the macbook air's. I'm actually looking to sell my MBP to go for a smaller macbook air. if anybody's interested. ;)
05/27/2012 09:53:48 AM · #11
Flash memory drives, SSDs make a big difference in any operating system. I put them in my 2008 vintage HP desktop. Boot time went from 4.5 minutes, to 27 seconds.

If my MacBook pro was used for more heavy duty computing, I'd probably upgrade it as well.
05/27/2012 10:03:59 AM · #12
I'm running it on a 2010 MBP.

No issues.

Message edited by author 2012-05-27 10:04:10.
05/27/2012 10:29:57 AM · #13
i upgraded to Lion on my imac in Feb this year. I have not been very happy with it so did not bother upgrading the macbook pro.

Biggest problem is it constantly drops the internet connection (and never happens on the MBP running Snow Leopard or the iPad when connected to the same WiFi connection simultaneously), so I conclude that is due to the OS. This was apparently a known issue and one of the updates was supposed to have fixed it, but I see no evidence of that at this point. My iMac is a 2011 version (pre Thunderbolt) with SSD and 16 GB RAM, so it's not an old machine. At this time I wish I had not bothered witht he upgrade.
05/27/2012 11:37:39 AM · #14
Sarah,
Sounds like something is definitely not right with your iMac upgrade to Lion. I guess I have had one issue with wifi on all my Macs since upgrading to Lion in that they take maybe 10-15 seconds to secure a wifi connection after waking from a sleep whereas with Snow Leopard the same took a couple of seconds. But my wifi connections never drop out. Maybe you need to do a clean install as suggested by Ben in this thread?
05/27/2012 11:41:05 AM · #15
thanks Brent, perhaps I should try that before I throw the machine through the window!
05/27/2012 11:54:48 AM · #16
Originally posted by salmiakki:

thanks Brent, perhaps I should try that before I throw the machine through the window!

Well at least try a couple other remedies before the window solution ;)
05/27/2012 11:57:41 AM · #17
Originally posted by salmiakki:

thanks Brent, perhaps I should try that before I throw the machine through the window!


When you throw let me know I will catch it upgrade and throw it back up to the window so that you can catch!!!
05/31/2012 07:25:33 AM · #18
Lion is definately better from a clean install, i repair computers in my spare time for a local shop, i actually do all the mac stuff as the guys at the shop are more windows guys, i have done quite a few lion installs on imacs and macbooks recently and theres a noticeable improvement from doing a clean install rather than upgrading snow leopard !
05/31/2012 08:10:37 AM · #19
I'm running it as a virtual machine on my pc. Runs perfectly lol
05/31/2012 08:37:27 AM · #20
Good info. It makes sense and will keep me on snow leopard because there's no way I want to do a complete rebuild for the small benefits, if any, that I would get from Lion. =(

Originally posted by Robski:

Lion is definately better from a clean install, i repair computers in my spare time for a local shop, i actually do all the mac stuff as the guys at the shop are more windows guys, i have done quite a few lion installs on imacs and macbooks recently and theres a noticeable improvement from doing a clean install rather than upgrading snow leopard !
06/05/2012 12:08:47 PM · #21
I'm recently having problems booting to Lion. I'm not sure if it's a hardware problem or not, but right now, I'm thinking it's software. The machine was taking a long time to boot...I didn't notice at first because I typically start the machine and go do something else, but now, it won't boot beyond the grey screen. I've repaired the disk, and permissions and verified them. I can boot to safe mode, but that's it. I did install Leopard onto a separate partition and I'm able to boot to that with no problem. I'd just backup to Time Machine, wipe the HD and re-install Lion, I plug the external drive for Time Machine in about once a week or so, then let it backup overnight. What's been happening lately is that Time Machine spends all of its time "indexing" and never gets around to actually backing up, so I have to backup everything manually before the seemingly inevitable "Nuke and Pave" maneuver.
06/05/2012 12:58:39 PM · #22
Sounds like a catalog issue. I'll bet Disk Warrior would fix it, although it's not free. You could try running the latest Lion combo updater.
06/05/2012 02:07:45 PM · #23
So I have three Macs running Lion. One is new and came with it installed and I upgraded the other two. The new one that came with Lion is obviously faster for hardware reasons, but I would be curious to see if a clean install of Lion instead of an upgrade from Snow Leopard on the other two might clear some of the muck out of them.

How does one obtain a clean install of Lion? I know they released it on a USB thumb drive at some point, but I think those have been discontinued. I'm not trying to score a free OS upgrade as I already did pay to upgrade each computer to Lion. I just need a source for doing a clean install, can anybody point me in the right direction? Is there a way of doing this with a Time Machine backup?

Thanks! -Brent
06/05/2012 02:19:12 PM · #24
Originally posted by Brent_S:

How does one obtain a clean install of Lion?

There's probably a way to do it with the new recovery feature.
06/05/2012 02:31:11 PM · #25
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by Brent_S:

How does one obtain a clean install of Lion?

There's probably a way to do it with the new recovery feature.


Thanks Shannon, I'll look into that when I have more time. It seems the easiest way would have been to purchase the upgrade from the Mac App Store, download the installation file, and then save it to a thumb drive (supposedly only 4GB). But now that all my Macs are already running Lion, I can't purchase and download the installer :(

I might be able to install Snow Leopard to one of my Firewire or USB external drives and then boot from that. Kind of a pain in the butt though, I wish I could just purchase the installer download from Apple from my Lion system- I'd be happy to pay the $29 again for this convenience.
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