No RAW file when I shot RAW + JPEG

Canon RF 100-500mm F4.5-7.1 L IS USM

11/05/2011 04:18:40 AM · #1

Hello Everyone,

I'm using Nikon D7000. Today was my first time shooting RAW. For photo quality I chose
NEF (RAW) + JPEG FINE. After I transferred the files to my PC, all I see are JPEG files. I don't see RAW files. I see DSC_4258, DSC_4258 (1), DSC_4259, DSC_4259 (2) etc. Please advise what I should do? Must I have any software to view RAW files? Thank you.

I have ViewNX2 installation CD. Is this what I must use to view RAW file? What about converting to JPEG?

Ang

Message edited by author 2011-11-05 04:20:41.

cloudsme

Canon EOS R5

11/05/2011 08:39:50 AM · #2

Well, you have 2 files of each number, are you sure one of them isn't the raw file?

GinaRothfels

Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III

Olympus 8mm f/1.8 M.Zuiko Digital ED Fisheye PRO Lens

11/05/2011 08:49:13 AM · #3

The first time I ever shot RAW + jpg, the software I used to download the files changed everything to jpg. I can't remember any more how I did it, but I've been very careful since then to download the two types separately on the rare occasion I use both. Unless I'm shooting for a minimal editing challenge, I usually only use RAW.

I had a similar experience a few years back with downloading photos and videos together (on an old P&S camera - no RAWs there). The software changed the videos to tiny jpg files. As I was using cut & paste, the videos were lost forever.

11/05/2011 09:12:59 AM · #4

I'm very sure that both turned out to be JPEG. The file size is the same and both ends with .jpg.

Originally posted by cloudsme:

Well, you have 2 files of each number, are you sure one of them isn't the raw file?

Samsung Galaxy S21, S21+, S21 Ultra

11/05/2011 09:14:54 AM · #5

I read online that I need to use Nikon Transfer software. I must not transfer the photos using cable to the PC USB port. That's what I read. Now I'm not sure if I can use ViewNX2 installation CD. I have to try.

Originally posted by GinaRothfels:

Bear_Music

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

11/05/2011 09:31:34 AM · #6

You don't want to run them through any software to transfer; you want to drag-and-drop into a new file on your drive. This is best done with a card reader, which plugs into a USB port and makes your memory card read as a portable drive as far as the computer's concerned. Then you "select all" the files on the card, right-click, drag them to the destination folder you have created, release them there, and choose "copy" as the option from the list. This is how to do it on a PC, anyway...

In many cases, it's possible to jack the camera itself into a USB port and bypass the (automatically activated) proprietary downloading software and read the card as above, but card readers are faster and simpler.

R.

ETA: Per your last statement, that's not correct; you do not "need" to use Nikon Transfer software. My brother-in-Law has the same camera as you and we were able to transfer all RAWs+JPGs exactly as described, with a card reader. It's possible the transfer software may be the only way to go directly from camera to computer; we didn't try that, we used the card reader. They asre cheap. Good ones can be had for less than $20.00 ion stores like Staples and Best Buy.

Message edited by author 2011-11-05 09:35:47.

NewtoNikon

Fujifilm X-T4

Fujifilm XF 16-55mm f/2.8 R LM WR

11/06/2011 01:08:18 PM · #7

When you say you can't "see" the RAW files, do you mean they aren't present, or there is an icon but you can't see what this icon shows?
If it's the latter you might need a programme to "see" NEF files, i.e. represent them as images. (I'm not explaining this too well, all I remember doing years ago is downloading a NEF codec to view files. I don't know whether it's still required for later versions of Windows or Macs)

As Bear Music says you do not "need" to use NX2 software, there are other ways. The beauty of Nikon View NX2 is that, in its latest version, it is both transfer software and viewing software, i.e. a browser. I find it easier to use than merely dragging and dropping. But each to their own.

tanguera

Nikon D750

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 17-35mm f/2.8D IF-ED

11/06/2011 02:52:52 PM · #8

As others have noted, there are numerous ways to transfer images from your camera to the computer. I never do anything but drag the images from the camera directly to a folder. But to view raw files, you either have to have a codec installed in your resident file manager, or have a program like viewnx or adobe's bridge software. Have you erased your card? I can't imagine that whatever method you used changed the images on the card itself.

snaffles

Nikon D7100

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

11/06/2011 07:13:48 PM · #9

Recently I had to retrieve a bunch of RAW+jpeg fine images from a hard drive. The retrieval system labelled the jpgs as JPG, while the RAWs (in fact NEFs) were labelled jpgs. Generally, the more *washy* versions are jpgs, and the NEFs are much more saturated.

Hope this helps!

ETA: on a PC you need the Nikon ViewNX software; on a Mac, iPhoto works perfectly fine and will keep the NEF and jpgs separate.

Message edited by author 2011-11-06 19:15:35.

David Ey

Nikon D80

Nikon AF Micro-Nikkor 60mm f2.8D

11/06/2011 08:38:42 PM · #10

If you plan to enter a pic in DPC contest I would do EXACTLY as generalE says otherwise you risk some software modifying the file and you won't have the original. Happens all the time.

MelonMusketeer

Nikon MF 50mm f/1.4

11/06/2011 10:05:41 PM · #11

The 7000 can be set up to put the Jpg's on one card, and the RAW's on the other. Check both cards with a card reader.
If you don't have a reader, you can remove one card at at time, then plug the camera in via USB.

Message edited by author 2011-11-06 22:08:08.

Sony Sonnar T* 35mm F2.8 ZA

11/07/2011 01:16:52 AM · #12

Thank you all for your input. I appreciate it.

I bought a card reader and I managed to transfer my RAW and jpeg files to the PC. I've no problem viewing jpeg files. As for the RAW it says "NEF" but I cannot open the photo. The thumbnail says "NEF". My Photoshop CS2 can't open NEF. So, I downloaded and installed Camera RAW software for CS2. I opened Adobe Bridge and yet I can't open NEF. According to //techtips.salon.com/use-adobe-camera-raw-cs2-10915.html website, it says, "Right-click on the Raw photo file that you would like to open and select the "Open in Camera Raw" option from the menu that appears." I don't see "Open in Camera Raw". It only shows "Open with Photoshop CS2". When I chose this, it won't open. I got an error message - "Could not complete your request because of a program error."

This image is not for dpchallenge. It's for a local photo competition. The organiser requires the photographer to submit RAW and jpeg.

Any idea how to solve this? Thank you.

salmiakki

Sony Alpha a7R III

11/07/2011 01:24:14 AM · #13

The problem is Photoshop's CS2 camera raw is not updated anymore, so when new camera models come out the newer raw files will not open with that software. Adobe get you like that. They only update the most recent version of their software when there are new camera models, almost forcing everyone to buy the latest version of Photoshop, (or you could try the latest version of Elements)

If it's not for DPC you could use Adobe's DNG Converter (Digital Negative Converter) which should be able to handle your NEF. This however, is not usable for DPC if you need to give an original.

//www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=106&platform=Windows

Message edited by author 2011-11-07 01:25:00.

tanguera

Nikon D750

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 17-35mm f/2.8D IF-ED

11/07/2011 01:26:02 AM · #14

Your camera should have come with proprietary software (i.e. viewnx), which will open and edit your raw (nef) files. If you don't have a disc, you can download it for free from nikon.

LevT

Olympus OM-1

Olympus 12-100mm f/4.0 M.Zuiko ED IS PRO

11/07/2011 01:40:26 AM · #15

Originally posted by salmiakki:

If it's not for DPC you could use Adobe's DNG Converter (Digital Negative Converter) which should be able to handle your NEF. This however, is not usable for DPC if you need to give an original.

Sarah, even if it is for DPC, he can still convert NEF to DNG using DNG Converter, process it in CS2, but for validation purposes use the original NEF file (DNG converter does not destroy the original, as far as I know)

bergiekat

Canon EOS-5D Mark IV

Canon EF 24-70 2.8L II

11/07/2011 01:43:52 AM · #16

Just curious if there is a setting within the software that you need to change to prevent it from converting the RAW files when it downloads/transfers from the camera. I have Canon, so not much help beyond this.

salmiakki

Sony Alpha a7R III

Sony Sonnar T* 35mm F2.8 ZA

11/07/2011 01:54:30 AM · #17

Originally posted by LevT:

True Lev

11/07/2011 05:23:37 AM · #18

I used Adobe's DNG Converter but it wouldn't convert my NEF file. It says something like "Error in parsing your file".

Originally posted by salmiakki:

11/07/2011 05:25:20 AM · #19

Yes, my Nikon camera does come with ViewNX CD installation. I will try this and report back.

Originally posted by tanguera:

Your camera should have come with proprietary software (i.e. viewnx), which will open and edit your raw (nef) files. If you don't have a disc, you can download it for free from nikon.

11/07/2011 06:31:37 AM · #20

Hello Everyone,

I can now open my NEF files after installing ViewNX 2. I used ViewNX 2 to convert the NEF files to TIFF files to edit them in Photoshop. I should be able to save the edited TIFF file to .JPEG format.

Thank you all.

MelonMusketeer

Nikon MF 50mm f/1.4

11/07/2011 09:44:56 AM · #21

It sounds like you have this one solved.

If you would like to keep the JPG's separated from the RAW's, you can keep them separated in camera so that you can just drag and drop them into two different computer files.
On the camera it's; Menu /Shooting Menu /Role played by card in slot 2 / RAW Slot 1 JPEG Slot 2
That will put them on two cards instead of in one card as 1R 1J - 2R 2J ect.

In the shooting menu, you can also separate the movie files; Menu / Movie Settings /Destination You can select to put movies on one card, stills on the other. It makes it easy to "select all" then drag to a folder with all one type of files in it.

Good luck in the contest. Post a link if there is one and you wish to do that, so we can visit the site.