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08/17/2011 04:37:41 PM · #101
Originally posted by IAmEliKatz:

Originally posted by rugman1969:

Originally posted by IAmEliKatz:

Originally posted by rugman1969:



Maybe I do get it, and it doesn't meet the challenge.


Maybe..
But that's exactly the point. Not everyone is the same, not everyone will have the same tastes, likes, dislikes and on and on...
Just because you see a 10 doesn't mean I won't see 4.
Everyone is entitled to their own creativity, their own opinions and that's the end of it.


Your right, as long as it fits within the challenge rules, there should be no problem when it comes to voting.


But whose to say what the challenge rules are... Like I said, the photographer or artist may see a 10 while you see a 3.. You cant put rules on creativity and thought..


Whose to say what the challenge rules are? you are kidding, right? We are ADULTS!
We are not 10 years old. If your boss tells you to steal, are you going to do it? No (or I least I hope not), because it is outside of the rules we as a honest people have to follow. If you read them loosely enough, though, you will probably find a way to get away with it and say it is not wrong. Does that make it right? no, and as such DNMC is DNMC. Challenge rules are not for everyone to decide what they consider right or wrong. Photograph the subject of `Time` as best you can. Pretty simple. As an adult, I understand what this means. I also understand that if I take a pic of a pothole and enter it in this challenge, I will get destroyed. But based on your opinion, as long as I title it challenge appropriate, and it is a well executed shot, I should do well. I guess you could say the same thing with the basic editing rules: If you argue it enough or think really openly, you could do whatever you want in the editing dept. It's the same concept. the difference is, you won't get dq'd for a DNMC image, you will if you don't follow the editing rules. Maybe thats the problem...maybe dnmc photos should be dq'd also, then you wouldn't see so many shoehorns.
08/17/2011 04:37:44 PM · #102
Originally posted by TheDruid:

Originally posted by IAmEliKatz:

Originally posted by rugman1969:

Originally posted by IAmEliKatz:

Originally posted by rugman1969:



Maybe I do get it, and it doesn't meet the challenge.


Maybe..
But that's exactly the point. Not everyone is the same, not everyone will have the same tastes, likes, dislikes and on and on...
Just because you see a 10 doesn't mean I won't see 4.
Everyone is entitled to their own creativity, their own opinions and that's the end of it.


Your right, as long as it fits within the challenge rules, there should be no problem when it comes to voting.


But whose to say what the challenge rules are... Like I said, the photographer or artist may see a 10 while you see a 3.. You cant put rules on creativity and thought..
More important is what the client sees. The more money they pay the righter you are.


That may be true. But for right this moment, there is no client.
08/17/2011 04:39:07 PM · #103
Originally posted by IAmEliKatz:

Originally posted by TheDruid:

Originally posted by IAmEliKatz:

Originally posted by rugman1969:

Originally posted by IAmEliKatz:

Originally posted by rugman1969:



Maybe I do get it, and it doesn't meet the challenge.


Maybe..
But that's exactly the point. Not everyone is the same, not everyone will have the same tastes, likes, dislikes and on and on...
Just because you see a 10 doesn't mean I won't see 4.
Everyone is entitled to their own creativity, their own opinions and that's the end of it.


Your right, as long as it fits within the challenge rules, there should be no problem when it comes to voting.


But whose to say what the challenge rules are... Like I said, the photographer or artist may see a 10 while you see a 3.. You cant put rules on creativity and thought..
More important is what the client sees. The more money they pay the righter you are.


That may be true. But for right this moment, there is no client.
Exactly.
08/17/2011 04:40:21 PM · #104
08/17/2011 04:48:01 PM · #105
Sorry everyone for this thread to go off topic. I didn't intend for that. My apologies.
08/17/2011 04:49:11 PM · #106
Originally posted by rugman1969:

Sorry everyone for this thread to go off topic. I didn't intend for that. My apologies.
lols, it is waste of time so it fits in nicely.
08/17/2011 05:21:37 PM · #107
I just wish I had more comments on a 4.7 score. Are you not seeing what I want you to see or do you see what I want you to see but hate it. Hell, I'd like a DNMC comment if it came with an explanation.
08/17/2011 05:23:27 PM · #108
Originally posted by kenskid:

I just wish I had more comments on a 4.7 score. Are you not seeing what I want you to see or do you see what I want you to see but hate it. Hell, I'd like a DNMC comment if it came with an explanation.


I'll give you that. Which one is yours?
08/17/2011 05:47:12 PM · #109
Originally posted by kenskid:

I just wish I had more comments on a 4.7 score. Are you not seeing what I want you to see or do you see what I want you to see but hate it. Hell, I'd like a DNMC comment if it came with an explanation.
Ahhh grasshopper, it takes great skill to shoot for the blind.
08/17/2011 05:50:35 PM · #110
Originally posted by rugman1969:

The title doesn't make the challenge, the photo does. the title only describes what you are photographing, for the most part.


i have to disagree somewhat... especially for this challenge, where the concept of "TIME" is abstract and intangible, the title may be essential to allowing the viewer to "get it". also, in general, i think titles are very important to conveying the meaning of any art and move it beyond the "ooo, look, pretty colors" eye-candy level

-mefnj
08/17/2011 05:52:42 PM · #111
I thought whining was a NO NO on DPc @ least that is what a lot of people were saying....hmmm...I guess it feels different from the other side? I think there are a lot of wonderful images and therefore I am not quite understanding all this fuss.
08/17/2011 06:02:02 PM · #112
Originally posted by kenskid:

Ha ! No brown for me ! I like your score !

Originally posted by TheDruid:

ROFL, got my first DNMC!!!! yayeee happy dance.

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Nefarious lot, it is slowly climbing.
08/17/2011 06:15:37 PM · #113
Originally posted by rugman1969:

Originally posted by kenskid:

I just wish I had more comments on a 4.7 score. Are you not seeing what I want you to see or do you see what I want you to see but hate it. Hell, I'd like a DNMC comment if it came with an explanation.


I'll give you that. Which one is yours?


I already received one from you, but I'm even more confused than without it. :)
08/17/2011 06:24:07 PM · #114
Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by rugman1969:

Originally posted by kenskid:

I just wish I had more comments on a 4.7 score. Are you not seeing what I want you to see or do you see what I want you to see but hate it. Hell, I'd like a DNMC comment if it came with an explanation.


I'll give you that. Which one is yours?


I already received one from you, but I'm even more confused than without it. :)


I'll look back and see which ones I gave that on and try to leave an explanation on all of them.
08/17/2011 06:25:29 PM · #115
Originally posted by mefnj:

Originally posted by rugman1969:

The title doesn't make the challenge, the photo does. the title only describes what you are photographing, for the most part.


i have to disagree somewhat... especially for this challenge, where the concept of "TIME" is abstract and intangible, the title may be essential to allowing the viewer to "get it". also, in general, i think titles are very important to conveying the meaning of any art and move it beyond the "ooo, look, pretty colors" eye-candy level

-mefnj


My opinion is if you want to score well, make sure the photo is good enough to show the voter where you are coming from. If it fits the challenge, then I see no reason why someone would vote yours low.
08/17/2011 06:27:18 PM · #116
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Nice to get comments. One suggested I'LLC win :-) unlikely.
08/17/2011 06:27:45 PM · #117
Originally posted by rugman1969:

Originally posted by mefnj:

Originally posted by rugman1969:

The title doesn't make the challenge, the photo does. the title only describes what you are photographing, for the most part.


i have to disagree somewhat... especially for this challenge, where the concept of "TIME" is abstract and intangible, the title may be essential to allowing the viewer to "get it". also, in general, i think titles are very important to conveying the meaning of any art and move it beyond the "ooo, look, pretty colors" eye-candy level

-mefnj


My opinion is if you want to score well, make sure the photo is good enough to show the voter where you are coming from. If it fits the challenge, then I see no reason why someone would vote yours low.
Mine, is to shoot what people like here, then it will score well.
08/17/2011 07:00:04 PM · #118
This is my 100th challenge entry, and after those 100 entries you would think I would remember that a decent image will not fly well if it falls outside the normal thinking of the challenge definition. But, I never have been accused of being the brightest light in the barn...lol..I will say that for a site that is based on creativity, it's common for those that occasionally think outside the box to be penalized rather harshly..
08/17/2011 07:06:45 PM · #119
I just got this comment:
"clever, but a real shoehorn"
Well, to the author, probably too clever...
08/17/2011 07:06:50 PM · #120
Originally posted by TheDruid:

Originally posted by rugman1969:

Originally posted by mefnj:

Originally posted by rugman1969:

The title doesn't make the challenge, the photo does. the title only describes what you are photographing, for the most part.


i have to disagree somewhat... especially for this challenge, where the concept of "TIME" is abstract and intangible, the title may be essential to allowing the viewer to "get it". also, in general, i think titles are very important to conveying the meaning of any art and move it beyond the "ooo, look, pretty colors" eye-candy level

-mefnj


My opinion is if you want to score well, make sure the photo is good enough to show the voter where you are coming from. If it fits the challenge, then I see no reason why someone would vote yours low.
Mine, is to shoot what people like here, then it will score well.


And thats a shame you have to do that to score well.
08/17/2011 07:23:57 PM · #121
Every single image in this challenge has met the challenge (DMC) by virtue of the fact that the shutter speed is a measure of time to expose the image (sensor). Beyond that you can justify any image. The time it takes to get to the scene to take the picture. The time it takes to get the studio setup to shoot, the time of day the photograph was taken and how critical that time of day was calculated or known to be the right time to get the shot etc etc.
Literal interpretations of the word Time immediately represent a clock of some form or other, and these simple direct interpretations on average do better than others that are not so basic, yet are more subtle in interpretation.
08/17/2011 07:33:23 PM · #122
Originally posted by Magnum_za:

Every single image in this challenge has met the challenge (DMC) by virtue of the fact that the shutter speed is a measure of time to expose the image (sensor). Beyond that you can justify any image. The time it takes to get to the scene to take the picture. The time it takes to get the studio setup to shoot, the time of day the photograph was taken and how critical that time of day was calculated or known to be the right time to get the shot etc etc.
Literal interpretations of the word Time immediately represent a clock of some form or other, and these simple direct interpretations on average do better than others that are not so basic, yet are more subtle in interpretation.


taking the rules WAY out of proportion. Ridiculous comment. Did not say to photo the measure of time, it said the SUBJECT of time, where time is the SUBJECT, not the measure of time being the SUBJECT. Because you did not show in a photo that exposure taking place, nor the shutter actually opening and closing. Literal interpretations can be taken more ways than one. Yours is obviously different than mine. take a photo of the sun. how many interpretations can you get out of that? Does that mean you take a picture of the moon and call it opposite of sun because you title it that way? Don't think so.
08/17/2011 07:36:37 PM · #123
Originally posted by TheDruid:

Originally posted by rugman1969:

Sorry everyone for this thread to go off topic. I didn't intend for that. My apologies.
lols, it is waste of time so it fits in nicely.


I agree. I give up.
08/17/2011 07:36:44 PM · #124
I just went through and upped my favorite entries to counteract the harshness of the voting.
08/17/2011 07:40:53 PM · #125
Originally posted by MargaretN:

I just went through and upped my favorite entries to counteract the harshness of the voting.

you forgot mine I'm afraid to say.
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