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07/12/2011 09:13:46 PM · #26
Dang, I am glad this thread got started. Kirbic and others, are you ready for my tale of woe?

With Ps 3 I could do everything my heart desired in Photoshop. I upgraded to CS51 a couple of weeks ago and it’s been crash, bang and boom ever since. Aside from making me a fervent advocate of the “Save” ”Save” “Save” button, It has left me with the frequent airing of a few naughty words and lots of questions.

The stats:
1.) Which OS are you running? : Windows 7 Ultimate
2.) Are you running the 32-bit or 64-bit version of the OS? 32-bit (because I don’t feel up to reformatting the whole ball of wax & 32-bit was just an ‘easy upgrade from the previous and royally despised Vista Ultimate.’)
3.) How much memory are you allowing Ps to use (under Edit>Preferences>Performance)? Right now, 1090. I’ve had it higher and lower. “No discernable performance difference”
4.) How many history states and cache levels are you retaining? The default: History – 17; cache 4. Mostly because I dunno what they do for a living.
5.) How much scratch disk space is available for Ps? #1 - D drive 6.29 GB, #2 - C: 279.71GB
Running 32-bit Ps for long periods of time (even leaving it inactive) can result in out-of memory conditions. I believe there are memory leaks, at least up to CS4. Okay I leave my computer on all the time, and usually PS is running (well, yeah!) I have not had this issue when running Cs3.. I can be "good" on this one.
If you are running a 32-bit OS, you will also have a maximum of about 3GB available to applications. Ps is usually set to a maximum memory usage of 55% as a default, so it can only utilize about 1.65GB. It's easy to overrun that. I have an advertised 4GB of RAM; I have the slots to upgrade to 8GB of RAM. I would happily do that if it is possible without reformatting the whole damn system. (that I’ve been told I must do, I think)

Other info? I have a 1-T hard drive

If you’ve read this far, I have the Nic & Topaz plug-ins. When I use them I can get 2 maybe 3 images processed. The 4th? Crash. No mercy. No save. Restart Photoshop, redo whatever. Assuming I pass this hurdle we get to Save for web? HA. I used to think of the blue screen of death, now I get the pink one. At least it doesn’t crash. By reducing the size of the file, I can then “SFW” but of course, that somewhat defeats the purpose.

Still, I love what CS 5.1 can do and really, really want it to work.

07/12/2011 09:21:59 PM · #27
reinstall windows 64 bit, you cant upgrade your ram without going 64bit. its not that hard, i just did it the other day, actually i do it twice a year anyhow, just to keep things tidy. win7 installs in about 20 mins, no need to reformat.

07/12/2011 09:25:29 PM · #28
Originally posted by hojop25:

When i go to open an image into photoshop from camera raw, it says not enough ram... my memory is fine, what the heck is it on about?! Help!


Seriously - 640K ought to be enough -- Bill Gates
07/12/2011 09:41:49 PM · #29
@ sfalice:
If your hardware is less than a couple or three years old, you should seriously consider moving to 64-bit. What I would do is buy a new hard drive for the OS & applications; 160GB should do. That's a *really* cheap purchase, even if you go with a fast enterprise-class drive, something I recommend. Now, deactivate Ps on the machine, shut down the 'pooter, remove the old boot drive, plug in the new one, and install Win7 64-bit on that. Install Ps and have at it, see if you can break it. If things are good, install the rest of your apps, and test Ps after each major installation. When you are done and operational, you're safe to ditch or re-purpose the old drive. In a pinch, you can reinstall the old drive, boot the system, and be off and running. Just remember to deactivate Ps on the drive with the 64-bit OS first.
If you have enough room in the case, you don't even need to physically swap drives, if you're comfy with switching boot priority in BIOS.
07/12/2011 09:54:30 PM · #30
Originally posted by kirbic:

@ sfalice:
If your hardware is less than a couple or three years old, you should seriously consider moving to 64-bit. What I would do is buy a new hard drive for the OS & applications; 160GB should do. That's a *really* cheap purchase, even if you go with a fast enterprise-class drive, something I recommend. Now, deactivate Ps on the machine, shut down the 'pooter, remove the old boot drive, plug in the new one, and install Win7 64-bit on that. Install Ps and have at it, see if you can break it. If things are good, install the rest of your apps, and test Ps after each major installation. When you are done and operational, you're safe to ditch or re-purpose the old drive. In a pinch, you can reinstall the old drive, boot the system, and be off and running. Just remember to deactivate Ps on the drive with the 64-bit OS first.
If you have enough room in the case, you don't even need to physically swap drives, if you're comfy with switching boot priority in BIOS.

Kirbic, that's waaaay beyond my skill level, but thank you for the information. I'll puzzle on it. The computer is a Dell 710 the cpu was upgraded to 720 (the latest, I think) by Dell when the 710 failed.

Mike_311, Microsoft says:
To get from 32 bit system to a 64 bit system on any operating system (XP, Vista, Windows 7), you will have to do a Clean Installation. Upgrading from 32 bit to 64 bit is not available on any Microsoft OS.
It's the clean install that I'm balking at. The last time I did that (Vista failed) it took more than a weekend and several long talks with folks in the Philippines and India.

Message edited by author 2011-07-12 21:59:16.
07/12/2011 10:02:36 PM · #31
you should really consider it, one of the reasons to go to 64bit OS is the improved RAM benefits, plus cs5 comes in a 64bit flavors.

one thing you may also want to do is check your task manager to see if any of your other programs are hogging up the ram. you could also create another user and set it up with aero turned off, no wallpaper, all the pretty little effects turned off and make it so the minimal amount of programs load. this will maximize your ram availability for Photoshop.
07/12/2011 11:39:38 PM · #32
Thanks, guys, for the advice. I'll think on it, because I really want that program to work, and work the way it should.
Alice
07/12/2011 11:44:22 PM · #33
An easy way to disable all startup programs is go to Start -> Run -> type msconfig -> Click Selective Startup option -> uncheck Load Startup Items-> and Reboot.

Do this and test PS, then add programs back one at a time (on the Startup tab in msconfig), rebooting after each addition. See when it stops working well and note the last program you just added.

(FWIW, a 32bit OS doesn't use all 4 gigs of RAM and going to 8 without upgrading to 64 bit would be pointless.)
03/31/2012 06:52:02 PM · #34
so, I am having this problem ONLY with Kodak digital gem airbrush...any ideas on that?
03/31/2012 06:58:12 PM · #35
Kodak support, question #26.
03/31/2012 07:05:33 PM · #36
Originally posted by scalvert:

Kodak support, question #26.


LOL! I just found that and was coming back to post! Thanks tho Shannon.

02/23/2015 07:50:33 PM · #37
Hi,

I purchased online a Resume and Cover Letter Template. However, I can't open them as they are psd files. I tried to download 30 days free trial of Photoshop Elements 13 Trial LS25 Win 64 but I can't run it successfully as its saying my laptop does not have enough memory. I have HP Laptop with 4GB Ram having 64 bit Operating System, Intel Core I5 and my C Drive still has 559 GB free space. Would you know why I didn't get successful?
Will greatly appreciate your immediate reply as I need to edit the files to start applying for jobs.

Thank you.

Maria
02/23/2015 10:26:21 PM · #38
Originally posted by mariainperth:

Hi,

I purchased online a Resume and Cover Letter Template. However, I can't open them as they are psd files. I tried to download 30 days free trial of Photoshop Elements 13 Trial LS25 Win 64 but I can't run it successfully as its saying my laptop does not have enough memory. I have HP Laptop with 4GB Ram having 64 bit Operating System, Intel Core I5 and my C Drive still has 559 GB free space. Would you know why I didn't get successful?
Will greatly appreciate your immediate reply as I need to edit the files to start applying for jobs.

Thank you.

Maria


You should not be having a problem with 4GB; 2GB is what is required per their "system requirements". I would be curious about information contained in your Task Manager (CTL+ALT+DEL). How many Processes are running and how much CPU and Memory are showing being used on the Performance tab. Your existing RAM is adequate, but could easy be deficient if you are running multiple programs/processes at the same time.
02/24/2015 02:44:02 PM · #39
Originally posted by mariainperth:

Hi,

I purchased online a Resume and Cover Letter Template. However, I can't open them as they are psd files...


First and foremost, I would question why templates for documents would be provided as .psd files. That seems to make no sense whatsoever. I would contact whomever you purchased them from and ask for them in a standard document format such as MS Word.
02/24/2015 03:25:51 PM · #40
Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by mariainperth:

Hi,

I purchased online a Resume and Cover Letter Template. However, I can't open them as they are psd files...


First and foremost, I would question why templates for documents would be provided as .psd files. That seems to make no sense whatsoever. I would contact whomever you purchased them from and ask for them in a standard document format such as MS Word.

Maybe they are PDFs?* Photoshop can bog down easily trying to rasterize a PDF at high resolution.

*the letters (P)SD and (P)DF are one space apart on the keyboard -- easy to mis-type ...

Message edited by author 2015-02-24 15:27:09.
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