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09/03/2010 05:05:21 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by pekesty:
I'm sure they would like to give a little grace...but then it would become a problem with those that would use this as an excuse to remove an image everytime they were unhappy with the score they were getting. It's the whole a few bad apples thing.
At least he's not getting the ugly pink ribbon for all eternity.
Originally posted by smardaz:
Originally posted by MaryO:
Originally posted by smardaz:
this is something i have never understood. if someone realizes after the challenge started, and before anyone asked to validate, and they honestly step forward to remove it, why the heck would they be penalized by having it count the same way as if SC had discovered it? |
'Cuz they broke the rules. My one and only DQ was exactly the same situation: I woke up in the morning, checked my score and was thrilled to see it was much higher than I expected ... THEN noticed it was a Basic challenge and I had merrily edited using Advanced. D'oh! The fact that I promptly reported myself doesn't change the fact that I entered an image that broke the rules for that challenge. I can't say I was happy to accept the DQ, but I never thought it was unfair.
And I've been very careful to double-check which ruleset is in effect when entering challenges ever since ;-) |
I get that the rules were broken, but when someone dq's themseleves then to me it's understood they weren't being shady, purposely trying to pull one over on us. I just think a little grace could be extended is all. |
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Totally flawed logic  pekesty..
As is, it can be used as you suggest, to remove an image (one in 25 anyway) that is getting a low score... That's exactly what the rule is for, it is intended to allow for this.. What it doesn't do is allow for people to submit an image that is illegal in any way and then request a self-DQ to avoid the embarrassment of having a pink banner across their challenge history.
ETA: Unfortunately, it does look like he will be getting the pink banner...
Message edited by author 2010-09-03 17:06:26. |
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09/03/2010 05:21:44 PM · #27 |
I wasn't aware of pinks going on home pages with self dq's that have rules violations...but how is it flawed to think that if grace were to be given, that some would use this as their loophole for keeping multiple stinkers off their homepage?
Originally posted by coryboehne:
Originally posted by pekesty:
I'm sure they would like to give a little grace...but then it would become a problem with those that would use this as an excuse to remove an image everytime they were unhappy with the score they were getting. It's the whole a few bad apples thing.
At least he's not getting the ugly pink ribbon for all eternity.
Originally posted by smardaz:
Originally posted by MaryO:
Originally posted by smardaz:
this is something i have never understood. if someone realizes after the challenge started, and before anyone asked to validate, and they honestly step forward to remove it, why the heck would they be penalized by having it count the same way as if SC had discovered it? |
'Cuz they broke the rules. My one and only DQ was exactly the same situation: I woke up in the morning, checked my score and was thrilled to see it was much higher than I expected ... THEN noticed it was a Basic challenge and I had merrily edited using Advanced. D'oh! The fact that I promptly reported myself doesn't change the fact that I entered an image that broke the rules for that challenge. I can't say I was happy to accept the DQ, but I never thought it was unfair.
And I've been very careful to double-check which ruleset is in effect when entering challenges ever since ;-) |
I get that the rules were broken, but when someone dq's themseleves then to me it's understood they weren't being shady, purposely trying to pull one over on us. I just think a little grace could be extended is all. |
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Totally flawed logic pekesty..
As is, it can be used as you suggest, to remove an image (one in 25 anyway) that is getting a low score... That's exactly what the rule is for, it is intended to allow for this.. What it doesn't do is allow for people to submit an image that is illegal in any way and then request a self-DQ to avoid the embarrassment of having a pink banner across their challenge history.
ETA: Unfortunately, it does look like he will be getting the pink banner... |
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09/03/2010 06:06:53 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by pekesty:
I wasn't aware of pinks going on home pages with self dq's that have rules violations... |
As noted in the rules, self-DQs may only be requested if no rules were broken. We may waive the penalty for that disqualification if the photographer comes forward before anyone questions the entry, but it'll still be listed as a regular DQ. |
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09/03/2010 06:08:01 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by pekesty:
I wasn't aware of pinks going on home pages with self dq's that have rules violations... |
A "Self-DQ" cannot, by definition, have a rule violation. If it has a rule violation it is a "regular DQ" regardless of how the violation was discovered. The SC does have a certain degree of discretion when determining penalties, but exceptions can and should require significantly unusual mitigating circumstances or they will become meaningless.
It is no great shame to have a DQ for an editing mistake (I should know!), and I don't think it's "cheating" ... |
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09/03/2010 06:24:55 PM · #30 |
Since I'm being quoted here, let's make it clear that I never brought up anything about cheating or not cheating. Navigating the rules can sometimes be difficult, especially when you throw in langauge barriers.
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by pekesty:
I wasn't aware of pinks going on home pages with self dq's that have rules violations... |
A "Self-DQ" cannot, by definition, have a rule violation. If it has a rule violation it is a "regular DQ" regardless of how the violation was discovered. The SC does have a certain degree of discretion when determining penalties, but exceptions can and should require significantly unusual mitigating circumstances or they will become meaningless.
It is no great shame to have a DQ for an editing mistake (I should know!), and I don't think it's "cheating" ... |
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09/03/2010 06:25:58 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by smardaz:
I just think a little grace could be extended is all. |
Just be thankful I'm not on the SC.
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09/03/2010 07:07:33 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by pekesty:
Since I'm being quoted here, let's make it clear that I never brought up anything about cheating or not cheating. |
No -- I was referring to the thread title designated by the OP, which was itself intended to be taken less-than literally. I was trying to clarify that I also do not consider an editing mistake -- especially when self-reported -- to be "cheating." |
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