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07/23/2010 01:39:12 PM · #1 |
I just heard this on the news. There is a neighborhood somewhere up north.....They said but I'm not sure. I think it was New York. Anyway these kids were playing a prank on this guy. Just as this man was going to bed, these kids rang the doorbell and started beating on the door. The guy ran to the door and saw some people running across the front yard. He caught up with one and tackled him. Anyway the parents of the kid has pressed charges and this homeowner was arrested for protecting his property. He was arrested for endangerment of a minor. I think he should press charges on the teen for tresspassing. The news report also said that this neighborhood has been having a problem with this. They have had mailboxes broken and stuff like that. My view is the homeowner should not be in trouble, the kids need a good whipping, and the parents need to spend more time with their kids and monitor their activities more closely. What views do ya'll have.
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07/23/2010 01:42:00 PM · #2 |
| My view is that you should actually know the details of a situation before you form an opinion of it. |
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07/23/2010 01:43:06 PM · #3 |
| Absolutely. Best way to counter kids knocking on your door and running away is to beat them senseless. Non-violent horseplay begets violence, and they deserve it. Their parents should be charged. Next time I hope he uses a gun. What's next -- prank phone calls? Soaped windows? Dented mailboxes? Somebody has to pay for this outrageous behaviour. If it can't be the parents because of Obamanation's soft on crime policies, it has to be the juveniles, with their blood. |
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07/23/2010 01:46:48 PM · #4 |
| I haven't read all the details, including your post, but I have formed an opinion. The homeowner acted stupidly. We know separate and apart from this incident is that there is a long history in this country of juvenile delinquents being tackled by property damage victims disproportionately. That's just a fact. |
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07/23/2010 02:07:42 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by Louis:
Absolutely. Best way to counter kids knocking on your door and running away is to beat them senseless. Non-violent horseplay begets violence, and they deserve it. Their parents should be charged. Next time I hope he uses a gun. What's next -- prank phone calls? Soaped windows? Dented mailboxes? Somebody has to pay for this outrageous behaviour. If it can't be the parents because of Obamanation's soft on crime policies, it has to be the juveniles, with their blood. |
Eloquently stated, but I prefer using satire to make my point ... ;-) |
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07/23/2010 02:09:50 PM · #6 |
| were they still on his property, if not he had to let it go. |
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07/23/2010 02:23:49 PM · #7 |
| Lets face it, you cant do anything these days without getting in trouble for something. |
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07/23/2010 02:31:46 PM · #8 |
Last summer, I was in my home office doing some work when I heard a loud bang from the sliding door to the backyard. Running down the stairs to see what happened, I noticed that someone had thrown a beer bottle at the glass sliding door(my yard is only fenced on two sides, but has bushes at the back). I saw a kid leaving my yard through the bushed at the back, so I ran out of the house, I caught up to her. She was walking with her mother.
If I was behaving like the man in this story, I could have slapped the kid "to protect my property". You can only imagine what the mother would have done to me to "protect her child".
Regarding the original story, I can only assume that the parents in this case will discipline their kid for their mischief. Thankfully, the parents didn't choose vigilantism like the man in this story did. They went through the proper channels, just as he should have.
Originally posted by cowboy221977:
... Anyway the parents of the kid has pressed charges and this homeowner was arrested for protecting his property. He was arrested for endangerment of a minor. |
And, just to be clear, he was not arrested for protecting his property. That is just some spin put either by the you, or the journalist you heard it from. He was arrested for assaulting a kid.
ETA:
I think I found the original story:
Original Story
Update
Message edited by author 2010-07-23 14:36:46. |
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07/23/2010 02:43:30 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by VitaminB:
Originally posted by cowboy221977:
... Anyway the parents of the kid has pressed charges and this homeowner was arrested for protecting his property. He was arrested for endangerment of a minor. |
And, just to be clear, he was not arrested for protecting his property. That is just some spin put either by the you, or the journalist you heard it from. He was arrested for assaulting a kid.
ETA:
I think I found the original story:
Original Story
Update |
Sorry I just worded it wrong.....Sometimes I get toungue tied.
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07/23/2010 03:08:37 PM · #10 |
The homeowner should have "used his words" first. Then if he caught hem again, take them to their parents. I believe both sides are wrong. The kids parents shouldn't have pressed charges because of their kids behavior, and the homeowner was wrong to first use physical violence before words. Had the homeowner "used his words" and the parents still pressed charges, then the kids would probably be less encouraged to prank on that man's house, and the parents would not be able to win the court case.
Simple Answer: Everyone is wrong and acted stupidly in this situation.
ETA: Spelling error
Message edited by author 2010-07-23 15:09:00.
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07/23/2010 03:13:11 PM · #11 |
| What I find interesting is how much buzz there is about what is a minor, everyday occurrence. If there was internet when I was a juvenile delinquent, they would have needed more bandwidth than they have today. |
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07/23/2010 03:32:30 PM · #12 |
| This all reminds me of the old saying about twisting the tigers tail, don't do it as sometimes the outcome can be bad. |
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07/23/2010 03:41:59 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by jbsmithana:
This all reminds me of the old saying about twisting the tigers tail, don't do it as sometimes the outcome can be bad. |
Global Warming deniers need to hear that saying. |
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07/23/2010 03:57:15 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
What I find interesting is how much buzz there is about what is a minor, everyday occurrence. If there was internet when I was a juvenile delinquent, they would have needed more bandwidth than they have today. |
When?? When! You still are a juvenile delinquient, just the body has spread a bit and the hair has done a runner. |
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07/23/2010 03:59:51 PM · #15 |
Nicky Nicky Nine Doors is all about the risk of being assaulted by a resident, otherwise what fun would it be?
I never did it, but my wife has told me stories about when she used to do it (12 years old(?)), especially on the house of a boy she had a crush on.
Personally, if I ever did do it (which I didn't,)and got caught, I'd take the beating as the logical conclusion to being outplayed by my victim, and not report it.
This article is really more about the pussification of today's youth, and our litigious society. |
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07/23/2010 04:01:37 PM · #16 |
Quite an overreaction.
Now, if the kids were in the house or breaking windows, then yeah, I can see how one might react with a chase...but doorbell ringing? Knocking on the back door?
How well is the 37 year old homeowner protecting his family by leaving the front door open (assuming he didn't take the time to lock it prior to giving chase) and removing himself from the home? I know my two daughters and wife would be much safer with me in the house or at the door than sprinting across the street...
Also, I don't like that the kid's dad is pressing charges either, unless the homeowner went beyond "just" tackling the kid. I don't condone violence at all or vigilantism, but I would bet the (very) minor "injuries" will help to persuade Junior to not act foolishly like that again.
The kid was foolish and the homeowner was foolish. My ruling is as follows: The kid needs to rake the homeowners leaves twice this fall. The homeowner has to weed and mulch the kid's parents yard.
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07/23/2010 04:09:40 PM · #17 |
| I did that. doorbell ringing. at the age of 9 I was caught by a 16 year old and carried bodily into his house and locked in a broom closet after I was shown the dog dish and promised that I would be eating out of it for the rest of my life. sigh. |
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07/23/2010 04:12:19 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
This article is really more about the pussification of today's youth, and our litigious society. |
Amen! Running from beatings is how I got in shape as a teen. |
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07/23/2010 04:45:01 PM · #19 |
This wouldn't have happened to Rodney Peairs:
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshihiro_Hattori
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07/23/2010 04:50:00 PM · #20 |
I walked into the wrong house once and a wet, towel-wrapped woman, found me as I was calling, "Hello?", while looking for the party that was actually down the street. I went dyslexic on the house numbers. |
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07/23/2010 04:54:15 PM · #21 |
| Just remember if you own a gun and someone breaks into your house. Aim for the head. |
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07/23/2010 05:00:14 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
I walked into the wrong house once and a wet, towel-wrapped woman, found me as I was calling, "Hello?", while looking for the party that was actually down the street. I went dyslexic on the house numbers. |
I think I've seen that movie... ;) |
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07/23/2010 05:09:28 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
Just remember if you own a gun and someone breaks into your house. Aim for the head. |
LOOL |
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07/23/2010 05:22:56 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by hojop25:
Originally posted by mike_311:
Just remember if you own a gun and someone breaks into your house. Aim for the head. |
LOOL |
You can bet that crook can and will sue you if you only "injure" them with a flesh wound. Make your life easier.
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07/23/2010 08:45:32 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by jbsmithana:
This all reminds me of the old saying about twisting the tigers tail, don't do it as sometimes the outcome can be bad. |
Global Warming deniers need to hear that saying. |
What? Three degrees from man beats up little kid to global warming? |
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