How "Golden" is your score? - DPChallenge Forums

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 16-35 f/4 ED VR

11/16/2011 09:20:36 AM · #1

Originally posted by MinsoPhoto:

Well spirals dominated the front two pages. Sad... The golden ration is so much more then that.

A bit of a litteral interpretation, yep :)
But on the other hand, aside of depicting the spiral or suggesting its shape, the real classical practise of using it as a composing approach is far more complex, subtle and elaborated. When it's really well done, it works wonderfully but in almost undetectable way. Most of it is over my head and would require to analyse quite a few classics from Leonardo and the likes, so I am not surprised that more litteral approaches did better. Anyway, there were pretty good images both in the litteral rappresentations and the 'composed with' ones, including yours, so I am quite happy of what I have seen :)

mbrutus2009

Nikon D850

11/16/2011 08:55:58 AM · #2

That thing dropped like a sack of tatters. I still won't complain about the final score I got but I still wanted that 7.7 I went to sleep with the first night. Lol.

MinsoPhoto

Canon EOS-7D

11/16/2011 08:30:03 AM · #3

Well spirals dominated the front two pages. Sad... The golden ration is so much more then that.

Lytro Illum Light Field Digital

11/15/2011 05:34:52 AM · #4

Oh, sorry :) I'll make up for it after the closing then ;)
In reality, I am not too worried about people complaining about criticism.
There are plenty of sites on the internet which encourage a 'praise only' policy and, as you say, comments on DPC are generally appreciated.
However, I would so much prefer to know in advance whether comments/criticism on a specific image are welcome or not.
A 'criticism welcome and appreciated' option upon submission, as suggested by

yo_spiff (link), or even simply putting a suffix to the image title ("my image title - Criticism Welcome") would be so useful I think.
It would save me time commenting while avoiding hurting people sensibility, and also hopefully get me some useful criticism from people who refrain from commenting for fear of offending.

yakatme

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 17-35mm f/2.8D IF-ED

11/14/2011 11:54:30 PM · #5

You missed mine, but that's alright. You've commented more than most. I wouldn't worry about a 'few disgruntled comments back". Comments are, overall, appreciated.

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 II

11/14/2011 06:07:20 PM · #6

uhh, no comments is pretty annoying.
I have done my best for commenting on many, seems like I missed yours, maybe I can have a look after the closing.
You have rated 108 of 108 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 59 images (54%) in this challenge.

Even like this I am slightly worried I might receive a few disgrunted comments back :)

Purple_Girl

Canon EOS-1100D

11/14/2011 05:37:47 PM · #7

I'm a bit disappointed that I've had no comments, voting has been slow as well, I only just broke 100 votes today. Score in the 5s. I've voted on all the other entries and left some comments, will do some more tomorrow as well.

yakatme

Lytro Illum Light Field Digital

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 17-35mm f/2.8D IF-ED

11/14/2011 05:08:00 PM · #8

Yeah, that's an odd combination of stats. I'm curious to see which entry is yours as well as the vote spread too.

Lytro Illum Light Field Digital

11/14/2011 05:01:16 PM · #9

Uhhh..

Votes: 101
Views: 211
Avg Vote: 5.1089
Comments: 11
Favorites: 2

Hemm, I got quite a few encouraging comments and two favorites! Good stuff..
I am hoping this one is collecting good votes and horrible ones with not much in the middleground, which is quite a good thing compared to 'yawn, 5, let's see the next one'

I think I'll pester my commenters with requests of opinions on the outakes and alternative crops, so ungrateful of me :D
Looking forward to see the distribution and the winners, there were quite a few interesting images in a potentially really boring challenge.

yakatme

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 17-35mm f/2.8D IF-ED

11/14/2011 04:14:51 PM · #10

Originally posted by Alexkc:

Originally posted by yakatme:
Yes, please do. Ever since the debate about whether the entries in this challenge fit within people's perception of what the Golden Ratio is, my score has been plummeting. I was pleasantly surprised this morning to find it at 6.7 at 25 votes, but now it went to 6.3 with only a few more votes. It appeared that a few people went back and lowered their votes :(

This surely happened because I experienced the same. It is not completely fair to say what is right and what is wrong in the entries. My entry is not amazing but has (IMHO) a good idea... now it's a little under 6.

Well, it's only fair to report the good news as well...over the last couple of days my score slowly climbed back to where it started:

Votes: 102
Views: 198
Avg Vote: 6.7255
Comments: 5

FocusPoint

XIAOMI Redmi Note 8 Pro

11/14/2011 04:06:27 PM · #11

Votes: 100
Views: 178
Avg Vote: 5.8600
Comments: 3
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0

DustDevil

Canon EOS-70D

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

11/13/2011 08:52:36 PM · #12

Mine has been all over the place and thats an ok thing with me. I am trying to get a 6 image or as close to it then I figure I can dial in challenges with better images.
Votes: 88
Views: 178
Avg Vote: 6.0455
Comments: 4

We will see if it holds up....always a nose dive at the very end it seems.

Alex_Petrini

Sony Alpha a7R III

Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM

11/13/2011 03:12:55 PM · #13

Originally posted by yakatme:

Yes, please do. Ever since the debate about whether the entries in this challenge fit within people's perception of what the Golden Ratio is, my score has been plummeting. I was pleasantly surprised this morning to find it at 6.7 at 25 votes, but now it went to 6.3 with only a few more votes. It appeared that a few people went back and lowered their votes :(

This surely happened because I experienced the same. It is not completely fair to say what is right and what is wrong in the entries. My entry is not amazing but has (IMHO) a good idea... now it's a little under 6.

MinsoPhoto

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

11/13/2011 01:27:11 PM · #14

Slow voting, low score but very happy with the comments

Votes: 80
Views: 192
Avg Vote: 5.7500
Comments: 10

Tiny

Apple iPad mini 4

11/10/2011 12:35:06 PM · #15

Originally posted by Giles_uk:

Originally posted by Tiny:
My shot is total rubbish and I hate it,but having just looked at the others i,m sure that lots of folks like myself did not really understand the challenge properly.
Anyway have voted using the "what I think is a good shot and what I enjoy lookin' at" method.

booo hiss, whats the point in a challenge then, just FS everything. ive not entered this one btw

Phew !!

Giles

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

11/10/2011 12:32:26 PM · #16

edit: double post error

Message edited by author 2011-11-10 12:32:45.

Giles

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

11/10/2011 12:30:32 PM · #17

Originally posted by Tiny:

My shot is total rubbish and I hate it,but having just looked at the others i,m sure that lots of folks like myself did not really understand the challenge properly.
Anyway have voted using the "what I think is a good shot and what I enjoy lookin' at" method.

booo hiss, whats the point in a challenge then, just FS everything. ive not entered this one btw

MinsoPhoto

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

11/10/2011 08:18:20 AM · #18

Votes: 55
Views: 134
Avg Vote: who cares
Comments: 7

Tiny

Apple iPad mini 4

11/10/2011 07:09:34 AM · #19

Giles

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

11/10/2011 03:52:41 AM · #20

Originally posted by mbrutus2009:

7 - 7.7143
18 - 6.9444
21 - 6.9048
22 - 6.7727
29 - 6.6207
45 - 6.2444
47 - 6.1489
48 - 6.1458

Like... Really?

This just the natural progression of an aggregated voting the more votes you get the more reflective it is of your average....

Yay I've had 1 vote : 10 (thnx mum ;)) lol then 120 votes your on 5.6 its just a better metric as more data in it

There alot of entries in here that didn't understand the golden rule let alone the voters, I gave 1x1 but also gave a 10 (rare for me) to a cracking pic

Message edited by author 2011-11-10 03:55:06.

Neat

Canon Canon 1d x Mark II

Samsung Galaxy S21, S21+, S21 Ultra

11/10/2011 12:27:23 AM · #21

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by Neat:
WOW, and was that photo, one that was radically affected b/c of these threads ?

No, it was a free study shot. Anyway, I don't believe in that. I think people read way too much into things. The variations seem to happen regardless of whether or not there are debates raging. And I think anytime there's a topic that confuses people enough that they start debating what it means, well that topic is going to generate polarized voting whether or not the debate occurs.

The threads don't CAUSE the voting fluctuations; they're just another visible manifestation of polarization, exactly as the erratic votes are.

R.

Ok I guess you've been here from the start so you would know better than anyone else. Thanks for the reply.

Bear_Music

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

11/10/2011 12:13:47 AM · #22

Originally posted by Neat:

WOW, and was that photo, one that was radically affected b/c of these threads ?

No, it was a free study shot. Anyway, I don't believe in that. I think people read way too much into things. The variations seem to happen regardless of whether or not there are debates raging. And I think anytime there's a topic that confuses people enough that they start debating what it means, well that topic is going to generate polarized voting whether or not the debate occurs.

The threads don't CAUSE the voting fluctuations; they're just another visible manifestation of polarization, exactly as the erratic votes are.

R.

Neat

Canon Canon 1d x Mark II