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11/02/2011 08:25:55 AM · #1
Originally posted by sinistral_leo:

Originally posted by sinistral_leo:



pederlol's stats as of 9/23ish
Challenges Entered: 3
Votes Cast: 234
Avg Vote Cast: 3.0684
Votes Received: 0
Avg Vote Received: 0.0000
Comments:
Made: 0
Helpful: 0


(today) 2 weeks later

Challenges Entered: 6
Votes Cast: 937
Avg Vote Cast: 3.6596
Votes Received: 607
Avg Vote Received: 5.8336

That means he left an average vote of 3.86 since last check...
Guess he still doesn't like our stuff...


What - are you on some sort of personal vendetta? You should make an ongoing thread about how awful a person I am... geez.
10/08/2011 07:02:14 PM · #2
Originally posted by Nadine_Vb:

I think the gentleman was looking for a photographic site with very high standards, but he landed at the wrong place, between a bunch full of wannabes with nil skills. Since he payed for membership, he has to do something with his account and can't just leave it as it is to move on.
I like what's coming out of the camera, but the person behind it is not what I call "Mr. Simpatico".
I'm sure that's not his goal either. He only wants to point out others their photography is just so-so - proven by his scores given.


He should have used his money for a 1x membership instead.
10/08/2011 06:47:52 PM · #3
I think the gentleman was looking for a photographic site with very high standards, but he landed at the wrong place, between a bunch full of wannabes with nil skills. Since he payed for membership, he has to do something with his account and can't just leave it as it is to move on.
I like what's coming out of the camera, but the person behind it is not what I call "Mr. Simpatico".
I'm sure that's not his goal either. He only wants to point out others their photography is just so-so - proven by his scores given.

Message edited by author 2011-10-08 18:49:25.
10/08/2011 05:05:10 PM · #4
yet he GETS scores from mid 5's to 6+...something he would NEVER give!
10/08/2011 02:18:19 PM · #5
Originally posted by sinistral_leo:



pederlol's stats as of 9/23ish
Challenges Entered: 3
Votes Cast: 234
Avg Vote Cast: 3.0684
Votes Received: 0
Avg Vote Received: 0.0000
Comments:
Made: 0
Helpful: 0


(today) 2 weeks later

Challenges Entered: 6
Votes Cast: 937
Avg Vote Cast: 3.6596
Votes Received: 607
Avg Vote Received: 5.8336

That means he left an average vote of 3.86 since last check...
Guess he still doesn't like our stuff...
09/25/2011 04:10:26 PM · #6
Votes: 114
Views: 216
Avg Vote: 5.6754
Comments: 8
Favorites: 1

I can never understand the mass appeal. Got lovely comments and 1 favorite though. But, being a meh type ....
09/25/2011 04:06:54 PM · #7
yup. down, down, down it goes. Personally, I think they need a little more wine and a little less w(h)ine when they're voting. :P
09/25/2011 04:02:14 PM · #8
Yes, drastic reduction.
09/25/2011 03:52:19 PM · #9
Originally posted by Cuttooth:

Originally posted by bergiekat:

Anyone else seen a flurry of lower votes in the past 24 hours?


/raises hand

Oh yes, the closer to roll over, the lower the votes. Common trend called technical voting
09/25/2011 03:11:52 PM · #10
Originally posted by bergiekat:

Anyone else seen a flurry of lower votes in the past 24 hours?


/raises hand
09/25/2011 03:10:26 PM · #11
Anyone else seen a flurry of lower votes in the past 24 hours?
09/23/2011 10:38:02 PM · #12
Originally posted by BrennanOB:

The SC sees all, it is best not to ask too deeply into their methods, people who ask too many questions tend to disappear.


"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!!"
09/23/2011 08:22:24 PM · #13
The SC sees all, it is best not to ask too deeply into their methods, people who ask too many questions tend to disappear.
09/23/2011 08:20:31 PM · #14
I'd wine, but it's pointless. :-)
09/23/2011 08:17:42 PM · #15
Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by nickyb:

had to send in proof..?
no idea why...


Because you're under age. They couldn't card you, so they requested a validation instead. :P


but how'd they know!
09/23/2011 07:12:15 PM · #16
Originally posted by nickyb:

had to send in proof..?
no idea why...


Because you're under age. They couldn't card you, so they requested a validation instead. :P
09/23/2011 07:03:43 PM · #17
had to send in proof..?
no idea why...
09/23/2011 07:02:33 PM · #18
GRRR! It is depressing how much a 2 will drop your score even with 95 votes...

(I still wish I knew what they didn't like so much)
09/23/2011 05:55:40 PM · #19
I believe getting 1's is a part of DPC life. I have a thicker skin now, so it doesn't bother me as much as it used to. Also, I realize that changing one person is not going to make a difference - a lot of newbies keep joining DPC all the time. So I just let it be. There's no point in picking on pederlol - Everyone votes according to their thinking. And people keep growing up to be better voters just like they keep growing up to be better photographers or better critics.

Now, to the regularly scheduled programming:

You have rated 37 of 126 images (29%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 37 images (29%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.7540.

Will try to cover more.
09/23/2011 05:15:04 AM · #20
Originally posted by bhuge:

I saw the profile pic for pederlol and noticed that it was an outtake of your entry. If someone found an outtake then I knew there had to be more examples of your work out there somewhere for me to admire. My friend Google brought me to your flickr page. That's when I noticed old entries from zarko and got suspicious.

As long as the zarko account is dead and your not voting from both, then I could care less if you have both. I'm sure the SC could close one of them for you and avoid any need to "cast you out the gate". Which also lets me admire your work some more :)

now user [user]blacknoir[/user] is dead, as it's not allowed to hold 2 accounts, so the attempt to circumnavigate the rules did not work
09/22/2011 08:55:38 AM · #21
Originally posted by pederlol:

I guess it comes down to "how bad (good) should a photo rated 1 (10) be?", and I think everyone has their own understanding of this. By rating a photograph 4 doesn't mean I would rate my own any higher...


For my scale a 1 or 2 is the absolute worst a shot could be. Everything about it is wrong. Focus, lighting, concept, title, everything. Since there is no room to vote any lower than 1, I only give 1s to shots that are the absolute lowest quality possible.

Same thing for 10s but in the reverse.

The rest of the scale I reserve for shots that have good and bad qualities. If my cat stepped on my camera in the dark and uploaded the picture with a stupid title, that's a 1. If something is in focus, there is an interesting pattern of light and shadow or there was an attempt at meeting the challenge, that earns points. If the shot has an identifiable subject or is even slightly well composed, that earns points.

I suppose that my point is: I use the entire scale to vote. By having a negatively skewed distribution, it doesn't leave any room to distinguish the absolute worse shots.

Originally posted by pederlol:

Just a mathematical remark; as long as every voter is consistent, the result would remain the same. Whether your votes follow a Normal Distribution or a Gamma Distribution wouldn't change the result if you shift the mean up or down.


BTW, if I give everybody else low scores, the results do not even out (if my image is also in voting). My image would do better relative to everyone else's since they were voted using a normal distribution. Everybody else is unaffected in that they all shift down, except my image which doesn't, because it was the only one not scored with a negatively skewed scale.

Message edited by author 2011-09-22 10:07:19.
09/22/2011 04:53:05 AM · #22
I'm going to bed before mine sinks any lower. G'night all! Hoping to wake up to brighter scores! :)
09/22/2011 04:23:32 AM · #23
Would love to know what pederlol voted on my shot when the voting is over...
And by the way - if you ( pederlol) vote on all the entries then yes your vote would affect everyone to the same degree but if you voted on only some of them, then the ones that you vote on will be at a disadvantage due to your lower than average vote cast.

I just got hammered with a 1 - not saying it was you but I must have a bad picture
09/22/2011 03:15:07 AM · #24
Peder...(love that spelling), would you be upset if your challenge images were all voted on and your scores received in the 3-4 range? No comments? After all, you are posting in a "score" thread, so it must be a good score you strive for, no? If the score you give is always below what you receive, you can understand why people are getting upset. BTW, there is a reason for the voting scale allowing 1-10 and not 1-4. Anyway...we do welcome you, but try to understand where people are coming from. Using a different scale than others is like comparing apples to oranges with the same goal in mind.
09/22/2011 02:25:29 AM · #25
Originally posted by Nadine_Vb:


I think there's one thing both gentlemen should realize: this community has beginners in potography and more advanced ones, there are people who can spend a fortune sort of speaking to create a shot while others have to manage with basic. Some people have to use desklamps, construction lamps to realize their picture, others have a real studio to use with models and all.
Everyone shoots following their ability. So, saying that there are bad pics and really good pics... sorry. There are no bad pics imho. There are less good pics. A picture that deserves e.g. a 1 or a 2 is a picture even my grandma or mother would do better.
Once in a while there are pictures like that passing the review. But selden. In the wine challenge, I don't see even 1 picture deserving a 1 or even a 2.

Someone has to be the best photographer on a site, someone has to be the worst.
But I'm the biggest fan of the best photographer which remains simple and modest and which shares his knowledge with the less good ones, who supports lesser photographers and helps building them up in stead of tearing them down.


Just a mathematical remark; as long as every voter is consistent, the result would remain the same. Whether your votes follow a Normal Distribution or a Gamma Distribution wouldn't change the result if you shift the mean up or down.

I guess it comes down to "how bad (good) should a photo rated 1 (10) be?", and I think everyone has their own understanding of this. By rating a photograph 4 doesn't mean I would rate my own any higher...

Message edited by author 2011-09-22 05:21:00.
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