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08/29/2010 08:50:33 PM · #1 |
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08/29/2010 12:52:24 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by Jac:
........How many pics have they refused you? |
I asked that in a different way, it went unanswered. I had asked: "we can safely assume that you haven't lowered yourself to submitting any pictures, right?"
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08/29/2010 12:41:51 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by bryanbrazil:
All this talk of 1x made me go sign up and submit a photo. It was accepted and is currently sitting on the front page as one of the most popular photos of the day with a lot of positive comments. Maybe I haven't been on there long, but seems like a supportive site to me... |
SHHHHHHHHH!!! Bryan, please, what is wrong with you? You don't loudly announce it to the entire world when you've just joined ranks of an arrogant, pretentious, weak-minded, obnoxious, silly, and retarded group of people (Edward, did I forget any adjective?). I hope you at least avoid allowing yourself to be blindly awed by the site, and, certainly hope you don't become a part of the very idea of conceit and arrogance they're trying so hard to claim 1x is not. Right, Edward?
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08/29/2010 11:46:53 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
DPC is not 1x... DPC is much better than 1x or any other websites out there. Most challenge websites give you 6 months to a year to post a subject, and have you pay $35 per photo. |
I am not on 1x so I don't know about that.
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08/29/2010 11:45:10 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by mgarsteck:
What are the other sites that you mentioned? I am quite curious. |
Used to be on the earlier mentioned photosight.ru. Now also Photodom.com . It is not DPC or 1x or whatever. But what comes out at the top is pretty damn good.
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08/25/2010 01:54:14 AM · #6 |
Ha, thats pretty awesome :) great shot
Originally posted by bryanbrazil:
All this talk of 1x made me go sign up and submit a photo. It was accepted and is currently sitting on the front page as one of the most popular photos of the day with a lot of positive comments. Maybe I haven't been on there long, but seems like a supportive site to me... |
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08/25/2010 01:20:46 AM · #7 |
| All this talk of 1x made me go sign up and submit a photo. It was accepted and is currently sitting on the front page as one of the most popular photos of the day with a lot of positive comments. Maybe I haven't been on there long, but seems like a supportive site to me... |
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08/24/2010 06:56:19 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
Originally posted by mycelium:
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
Originally posted by mycelium:
..............Check out www.photosight.ru - long one of my favorites. |
Personally, I was not very impressed with the average quality of the images, particularly when comparing it to 1x, which is what prompted you to bring the site up. |
Yea, i have to agree. The general quality on 1x is streets ahead of that site. Did someone say it was comparable? Jeez. Comparable to Flickr maybe. |
Dismiss it if you will. I haven't poked around recently; maybe their navigation has changed and made the good stuff harder to find, but I've mined deep veins of amazing work by quite a number of photographers there, particularly in the genres of surrealism, nudes, and landscapes. |
It's not worth it. The people that have allowed themselves to be blindly awed by 1x, will always dismiss anything else, and ironically become the very idea of conceit and arrogance they're trying so hard to claim 1x is not. |
Have allowed themselves... haha that's so arrogant and in a way ignorant of you Edward. Yes I allow myself to be amazed at what my eyes and mind find beautiful. We all allow ourselves to let beautiful shiny objects tickle our fancy and make us go wow.
How many pics have they refused you? |
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08/23/2010 08:55:48 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Rather than bitching about a site in some other site's forum, surely the most appropriate path to effect change would be to notify the site webmasters of your feelings and criticisms ... I'm almost sure 1x will not be changing anything due to the existence of this thread. |
Not fair! Not fair!!!
No fair using logic and reason, just when it was getting to fun...
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08/23/2010 08:45:07 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
t's not worth it. The people that have allowed themselves to be blindly awed by 1x, will always dismiss anything else, and ironically become the very idea of conceit and arrogance they're trying so hard to claim 1x is not. |
Oh, come on. That's just silly. |
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08/23/2010 08:33:15 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by mycelium:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Really ... a discussion might be worthwhile if people would post a (link to a) photo they either like or dislike, and say why. |
Here's a link to a few photos on photosight.ru that strike my fancy.
(And FWIW, I'm sorry to say that the site IS much less navigable now, especially if you don't speak Russian. I can't imagine why they would have gone out of their way to make things harder to find...)
//www.photosight.ru/photos/3879711/
//www.photosight.ru/photos/3879778/
//www.photosight.ru/photos/3881105/ |
Well, fair enough. But after my brief look on the site i came up with this... , this....., and this... (NONE OF THEM SFW). Which is why i made my comparison with Flickr. I don't speak Russian, but to me that site seems just like somewhere that anyone can just upload photos and so doesn't really compare to DPC or 1X at all really. Of course if you dig you'll find some good stuff but it doesn't seem to be moderated, or geared, towards any sort of quality photography site.
Look, i'll echo the feeling that DPC cannot be compared to 1X at all. They are completely different things. Of course 1X is not the best photography in the world. Like DPC it is an amateur site with a small handful of professionals posting their images. But we're not looking at the likes of Sally Mann or Roger Ballen or Wolfgang Tillmans there or here. Course we're not. As someone pointed out, 1X is as much about 'eye-candy' as DPC in it's own way and most of it is not the sort of stuff you'll find in the higher end galleries and magazines.Far from it. But there is some amazing stuff on both sites and 1X tends to have, to my mind, a higher standard of interesting, more exciting art than here. But, of course that would be the case. One is a web gallery that is chosen and the other is a photo competition.
I'd also like to say that i never really understand the accusation of being 'pretentious' for anything really. It is such a lazy, cop-out critique that doesn't actually mean much at all beyond exposing the accusers failings. I don't quite get the accusations here against 1x either as they seem to be against the running of the site and the claim that they say they are 'the best photo site on the web' or something. I've never seen that claim on 1X but either way thats just a bit of hyperbole and isn't something to get worked up about really.
Message edited by author 2010-08-23 20:46:44. |
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08/23/2010 06:40:28 PM · #12 |
I have to agree. The notion of comparing DP Challenge to 1x.com is as absurd as comparing DP challenge to Joe McNally's blog. Good stuff on both places but entirely different purposes.
I enjoy 1x.com and have never felt it was snooty or pretentious. Now those folks over at //craigrtaylor.blogspot.com/ ? They're snooty and pretentious! =)
Seriously though, I follow a number of different blogs and websites all for different reasons. I get something different from each one. None of them are "better" than the others.
Oh and to plug one of my current favs I really enjoy //fstoppers.com/
Great BTS videos that speak about a number of different photography/film subjects.
I love when people post tutorials on this site. I haven't see one yet that wasn't useful.
Message edited by author 2010-08-23 18:40:47. |
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08/23/2010 06:27:12 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Really ... a discussion might be worthwhile if people would post a (link to a) photo they either like or dislike, and say why. |
Here's a link to a few photos on photosight.ru that strike my fancy.
(And FWIW, I'm sorry to say that the site IS much less navigable now, especially if you don't speak Russian. I can't imagine why they would have gone out of their way to make things harder to find...)
//www.photosight.ru/photos/3879711/
//www.photosight.ru/photos/3879778/
//www.photosight.ru/photos/3881105/
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08/23/2010 06:18:09 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Nusbaum:
Sometimes I wish we could just talk about photography and nothing else because most of the time that is all the really matters to me. |
Really ... a discussion might be worthwhile if people would post a (link to a) photo they either like or dislike, and say why. Generalizations about photos, photographers, or photography sites are pretty meaningless, thus seeming petty and mean-spirited.
Long ago, when organizations could afford to have classes on giving criticism, we learned that it was only effective if your criticized the act, not the person. It's just a fact that people will respond differently to these two statements:
"The site made me feel like I was in some pretentious art gallery."
"The site is run by some pretentious art snobs."
In the first case, you acknowledge your feeling, something no one can dispute. However, in the second case, you accuse the site owners of deliberately instilling that feeling in you -- something which may not have been their intent at all.
Rather than bitching about a site in some other site's forum, surely the most appropriate path to effect change would be to notify the site webmasters of your feelings and criticisms ... I'm almost sure 1x will not be changing anything due to the existence of this thread. |
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08/23/2010 06:10:37 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Nusbaum:
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
The people that have allowed themselves to be blindly awed by 1x, will always dismiss anything else, and ironically become the very idea of conceit and arrogance they're trying so hard to claim 1x is not. |
I was one of those people who had never heard of 1x and then said I was impressed after this thread prompted me to visit. Now I kind of feel like I got kicked in the nuts for just peaking in the window. So, just to be clear, let me say that I love good photography regardless of where I find it. I'll go to the "women's interests" section of the bookstore to buy Italian fashion magazine that I cannot even read simply so I can clip the photos. I'll endure the judgmental stares of mid-western mothers while I dig for a book of fine art nudes that got buried with the porn. I'll bow my head to the pretentious gallery owners who turn their nose up when I'm not dressed right. I can even put up with pretentious or amateurish web sites if there is a possibility of finding more images that tickle my imagination. Sometimes I wish we could just talk about photography and nothing else because most of the time that is all the really matters to me. |
If you're not one of the people I speak of, don't let guilt associate yourself with them ;) |
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08/23/2010 05:56:49 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
The people that have allowed themselves to be blindly awed by 1x, will always dismiss anything else, and ironically become the very idea of conceit and arrogance they're trying so hard to claim 1x is not. |
I was one of those people who had never heard of 1x and then said I was impressed after this thread prompted me to visit. Now I kind of feel like I got kicked in the nuts for just peaking in the window. So, just to be clear, let me say that I love good photography regardless of where I find it. I'll go to the "women's interests" section of the bookstore to buy Italian fashion magazine that I cannot even read simply so I can clip the photos. I'll endure the judgmental stares of mid-western mothers while I dig for a book of fine art nudes that got buried with the porn. I'll bow my head to the pretentious gallery owners who turn their nose up when I'm not dressed right. I can even put up with pretentious or amateurish web sites if there is a possibility of finding more images that tickle my imagination. Sometimes I wish we could just talk about photography and nothing else because most of the time that is all the really matters to me.
Message edited by author 2010-08-23 17:58:56. |
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08/23/2010 05:49:39 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
It's not worth it. The people that have allowed themselves to be blindly awed by 1x, will always dismiss anything else, and ironically become the very idea of conceit and arrogance they're trying so hard to claim 1x is not. |
That's a pretty sweeping condemnation. The people I know here that participate, and successfully, at 1x, are whom I consider to be worthy of respect both as people, and as photographers. Conceit and arrogance simply aren't words I'd use to describe people like Ursula, LevT, Bspurgeon......in fact, I find those three in particular to be laid back and helpful.
I've gotten a whole passel of rejections, and it was hard to stomach for a while. I pretty much had the knee-jerk attitude that they were just too pretentious, 'til I realized what I was like when I first got here. I've come a long way, and I owe it to the help that I've gotten, and the hard work I've done here. If I look at it simply as another stage in my growth and development, then I can take falling on my face much easier. I simply have to get better than what I am now, change my way of creating images, and it'll be another part of the process. It ain't personal, it's something to strive for.....
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08/23/2010 05:24:52 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by mycelium:
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
Originally posted by mycelium:
..............Check out www.photosight.ru - long one of my favorites. |
Personally, I was not very impressed with the average quality of the images, particularly when comparing it to 1x, which is what prompted you to bring the site up. |
Yea, i have to agree. The general quality on 1x is streets ahead of that site. Did someone say it was comparable? Jeez. Comparable to Flickr maybe. |
Dismiss it if you will. I haven't poked around recently; maybe their navigation has changed and made the good stuff harder to find, but I've mined deep veins of amazing work by quite a number of photographers there, particularly in the genres of surrealism, nudes, and landscapes. |
It's not worth it. The people that have allowed themselves to be blindly awed by 1x, will always dismiss anything else, and ironically become the very idea of conceit and arrogance they're trying so hard to claim 1x is not. |
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08/23/2010 03:49:56 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by mgarsteck:
What are the other sites that you mentioned? I am quite curious. |
Gateway to Astronaut Photography of Earth
"Once a photograph of the Earth, taken from outside, is available - once the sheer isolation of the Earth becomes known - a new idea as powerful as any in history will be let loose."
-- Sir Fred Hoyle (British astronomer) |
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08/23/2010 02:57:24 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
Originally posted by mycelium:
..............Check out www.photosight.ru - long one of my favorites. |
Personally, I was not very impressed with the average quality of the images, particularly when comparing it to 1x, which is what prompted you to bring the site up. |
Yea, i have to agree. The general quality on 1x is streets ahead of that site. Did someone say it was comparable? Jeez. Comparable to Flickr maybe. |
Dismiss it if you will. I haven't poked around recently; maybe their navigation has changed and made the good stuff harder to find, but I've mined deep veins of amazing work by quite a number of photographers there, particularly in the genres of surrealism, nudes, and landscapes. |
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08/22/2010 06:17:33 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by smardaz:
or perhaps the aunt/uncle who gets drunk then makes lots of grandiose promises to you as a child and never fulfills them when they are sober |
Aunt/Uncle nothing. That was my mother. |
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08/22/2010 06:05:31 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by senor_kasper:
Originally posted by mycelium:
..............Check out www.photosight.ru - long one of my favorites. |
Personally, I was not very impressed with the average quality of the images, particularly when comparing it to 1x, which is what prompted you to bring the site up. |
Yea, i have to agree. The general quality on 1x is streets ahead of that site. Did someone say it was comparable? Jeez. Comparable to Flickr maybe. |
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08/22/2010 05:58:19 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by mycelium:
..............Check out www.photosight.ru - long one of my favorites. |
Personally, I was not very impressed with the average quality of the images, particularly when comparing it to 1x, which is what prompted you to bring the site up.
Message edited by author 2010-08-22 17:58:46. |
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08/22/2010 05:12:49 PM · #24 |
| this is too funny.. websites personified |
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08/22/2010 05:10:13 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by rugman1969:
1x is the like the snooty bitch at work... |
Jesus. And DPC is like the homophobic misogynist in the forums. |
I'd like to think of us more as the uncle that touches you inappropriately
or perhaps the aunt/uncle who gets drunk then makes lots of grandiose promises to you as a child and never fulfills them when they are sober |
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